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Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich welcomed President-elect Donald Trump’s electoral victory Monday, saying that “the time has come” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

He made the comment a day after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a recorded statement that he has spoken three times with Trump since the election and that they “see eye to eye on the Iranian threat.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

"Parts" doing so much lifting here it broke like Trump's legs going down a tiny ramp.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Lol Hope all these people didnt vote for Harris based on Gaza really regret their decision now. They were warned

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Palestinians Saved ❎

Climate Action Taken ❎

Women's reproductive freedom secured ❎

Sensible immigration reform ❎

Sense of smugness achieved ✅

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 3 days ago

What a shocker! Who could have predicted this?

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit!

Hang on. I can't find my Pikachu shocked face. I must have left it at the other article where the Republicans said they lied about Project 2025.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago (26 children)

So all you "But Gaza!" people......how'd that work out for you?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This may just be an observation from across the pond, but it feels like the But Gaza people were nothing but a troll farm and y'all got played.

Man, this whole situation is all kinds of fucked.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

It's mostly true. Someone was tracking those accounts and nearly all of them stopped posting entirely immediately after the election. Either very dedicated, or astroturfing.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The "people" bringing it up nonstop on social media might have been state actors or trolls but there were plenty of real people who followed the movement. They're still "But Gaza!" people regardless of how the idea that they should abstain from voting got into their head.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

I voted Harris, but I was pretty fucking disgusted with Kamala's refusal to change course on this.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Harris campaign made the decision to not break from Biden on Israel, at the cost of a +6 points gain. That's the fault of the campaign's calculations to ignore those voters, take them for granted, and instead run to the right with Liz Cheney and having the most lethal Military.

I voted for Harris and told others to do the same. It's still on the campaign. Blaming voters is just sowing division when we need unity and solidarity to fight against Fascism.

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Our first matchup tested a Democrat and a Republican who “both agree with Israel’s current approach to the conflict in Gaza”. In this case, the generic candidates tied 44–44. The second matchup saw the same Republican facing a Democrat supporting “an immediate ceasefire and a halt of military aid and arms sales to Israel”. Interestingly, the Democrat led 49–43, with Independents and 2020 non-voters driving the bulk of this shift.

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In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.

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Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally.

Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

You're right that they really messed up here

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago (2 children)

we're about to see something really shocking and ugly aren't we. more so than usual I mean

[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No, I've been told a Trump victory couldn't make anything worse for Palestine. This should just be status quo stuff here.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Indeed, because "Genocide Joe" and so on, argle bargle. The voters that sat out because of this, or worse, outright voted for donvict will have a lot to answer for. I mean, if they actually give a shit about Palestinians and didn't really just want to be Above It All (TM).

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Good work Pro-Palestinian voters, you screwed your own people.

By the way, the US military will most likely gear up for a war against Iran. Yep, orders from Riyadh and Tel Aviv for another 20 year shit hitting the fan adventure doomed to fail.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (8 children)

The election wasn't decided by voters who cared about Palestine, I don't think.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I like how everybody is mad at pro Palestinian voters.

Another reminder Joe Biden is still president and Kamala Harris is vice president

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I am a pro-Palestine voter.

I voted for Harris because I'm not a fucking idiot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I like how not voting against an obvious fascist is pro Palestine.

Another reminder that fascists embolden fascists. Putin is one. Netanyahu is one. Trump is one. Vance is one. Musk is one.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Dear everyone who refused to vote: I hope you're happy! Really helping out the Israel-Palestine situation right now. You did this. Look at your crime against humanity and despair.

Dear Harris: You could have singlehandedly prevented this.

I'm playing both sides, so that I always come out on top.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Sunny has taught me that everything works out if you’re a main character.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

Honey, why is there a leopard at the door?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Take your bow protest voters… we fucking told you this would happen.

This is ALL on you.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AMA request: Anyone who voted for Jill Stein or Trump because Kamala wasn't hard enough on Israel.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

In theory it was mostly people not voting for Harris (or anyone). In most cases here, anyway. Supposedly.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

ITT: "How could third party voters do this? I have learned nothing."

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