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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 17th November 2024 (awful.systems)

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Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Should've probably posted this earlier, but fuck it: South Korea's ‘4B’ Movement Goes Viral in US After Trump Elected

“4B” is shorthand for a South Korean movement in which women refuse to engage in heterosexual marriage, childbirth, dating, or sex with men. It comes from the words bihon, bichulsan, biyeonae, and bisekseu, all of which start with a Korean prefix for “no.” It originated in 2019 in response to a culture that women felt was patriarchal beyond repair, and has since gained some traction in other countries.

Also, fuck it, quick sidenote:

This is mostly gut instinct, like most of the Trump predictions I've made, but I'm expecting a spike in full-blown misandry over Trump's term. Mainly because Trump managed to win over Gen Z men this election, and because the Trump administration is almost certainly going to town on abortion/women's rights.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

a spike in full-blown misandry

Misandry as in something equal to misogyny? If so, then I have to disagree, since men have historically been absolute pieces of shit towards women throughout history and misandry has never really manifested significantly.

E: I noticed I have a downvote. Hello to our sole MRA lurker!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Misandry as a concrete power structure that advantages women and disadvantages men? Unlikely, though with the likely resurgence of active patriarchy we should expect to see the negative consequences this has for men, especially non-normative men. Patriarchal masculinity is a game that necessarily has more losers than winners. I'd go so far as to say that some of the more politically-minded incels and MRAs are going to get even louder because while they blame feminism the actual source of the problems they're feeling is patriarchy.

Misandry as a vague cultural meme about men being terrible and the friction that this causes, particularly for men struggling to find a healthy way to exist under patriarchal masculinity as discussed above? Very likely. At the same time while this won't feel good for men it's worth noting that these men are going to be complaining about losing a game where women are game pieces rather than players, which is pretty crappy. Like a king complaining to a pawn about how cruel it is to only move one square at a time without acknowledging that the entire game revolves around them.

I actually have no idea how to navigate this in a healthy way since I've definitely been on the losing end of patriarchal masculinity in ways that while deeply hurtful are very different in kind even if not in scope from the ways that system hurts women.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Misandry as a vague cultural meme about men being terrible and the friction that this causes, particularly for men struggling to find a healthy way to exist under patriarchal masculinity as discussed above?

Looking back, that's definitely the kind of thing I was expecting to spike. I was just too deeply peeved about vaguely gestures at everything to see that clearly.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Shorter HN: wasting gigawatts of power to increase VC valuations - fine. Discarding 80k pounds of butter because of missing allergen information is the worst thing to happen since the burning of the library of Alexandria

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42150991

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Crossposting this thread from [email protected] with the fortune article "Elon Musk’s AI turns on him, labels him ‘one of the most significant spreaders of misinformation on X’". The article itself is nothing much, but it does have this quote:

The smackdown from his own AI system, ironically, came soon after Musk touted the system to his followers in a tweet reading “Use Grok for answers that are based on up-to-date info!”

A little delicious irony is fine as a treat.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Some techbro proposes "HumaneRank" as a distribution system in the post-AI era and while HN finds it disturbingly like a global popularity system at least "it's better than Communism":

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42140664

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

TL;DR:

AI will take over the economy for reasons so humans will have no economic value for reasons which is terrifying for reasons and also we can't just have males sitting around because y'know so we need to make a pretend economy because communism. So anyway y'know PageRank? Well don't be shocked but humans have relationships too. So yeah basically let's distribute ownership of all the world's resources once a month proportionally to how many likes they receive (no I am not a vtuber why do you ask?).

What the heck did I just read?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Competitive college admissions and tech-industry hiring practices really have done permanent damage to these people, haven't they

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

big walmart is watching you.

https://old.reddit.com/r/walmart/comments/1gqphel/body_cameras_for_front_end/

a picture of a rack of walmart body cameras to be used by shop floor staff, with the title “providing great customer service while creating a safer environment”

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

You know shit's about to get real when the walmart greeter turns off her body cam.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

From the Small Mercies desk: remember Simone Collins was running for office in Pennsylvania? Well, she lost her campaign. Here's a piece about her from the Inquirer.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I know we're trying to cut back on the US politics for the sake of everyone's sanity, but Musk getting sneered by his own confabulator is still pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (7 children)

is the s in esrtweets for "shitty"? because holy fuck are they shitty

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

no part of me is surprised that every famous FOSS personality has a ridiculously bad age of consent take, but it is a real fucking problem that this keeps happening

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They made this terrible thing look like a train
There's something sweet in the air what I can't say
Would I like a drink to calm the brain?
Oh, please stay in the chairs

But oh, God
I don't wanna go to Mars
What kind of brainwashed idiot does?
It's all a lab rat life in jars
They branded the dream of ages
I don't wanna go to Mars
Be with me here and return to dust

-- White Lies, I Don't Want To Go To Mars, 2022

I remember really liking it when I heard it around first release. it holds up.

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