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[–] [email protected] 267 points 3 days ago (1 children)

48% of these kids frighten me.

[–] [email protected] 227 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Nah, it's just kids parroting their parents views. I did the same thing as a child, and I'm about as far left as you can get as an adult.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well in that case, 48% still frightens me.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Don't worry. It all comes down to the hands of like 100k voters in a few random swing states.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

The thing about this is, I was a kid in 1996 when Bill Clinton ran against Bob Dole.

Our whole elementary school had a big educational event about the election. Bob Dole and Bill Clinton both sent personalized videos to our schools, explaining what they stood for, and we had a mock election.

My grade overwhelmingly went for Bill Clinton. (I want to say, he had a very easy-to-understand platform regarding the importance of education, and the impact it would have on us, the future electorate. And Bob Dole was... Bob Dole.)

Did I mention I grew up in a very Roman Catholic, very hardcore Republican house? That I grew up in Oklahoma, a red state?

I wasn't the only kid standing up to my parents over the results!

I guess what I'm saying is, if the children are aware, and still choosing Trump, we need to know why. Kids don't have a problem voting against their parents, as long as they understand the issues. And if they don't understand the role they play in their country, we should be extending further education.

I really think that we are failing our children. Our educational system is disgraceful.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 3 days ago (4 children)

48% to Trump is embarrassing. This country is failing our children.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately kids parrot the hate and political leanings of their parents until they grow older at least

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Can confirm. Had a 16 year old work part time with me for a few weeks over the summer. Pretty cool kid, but yeah... Trump came up a couple times and both times he just repeated the bullshit that he'd heard from his parents. Sad shit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Really shows where the problem lies. Indoctrination. Results not much different than the national poll.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The worst part is knowing that they're (most likely) just listening to the loudest voter in their household even if other opinions manage to exist in their family.

I only remembered my dad talking about Bush or scoffing at this or that "donkey" thing so I thought it was Bush and the elephants I was supposed to like. I know I would have voted as such in something like this because I didn't know any better at 6-8 years old, although I'm not finding the kids' age ranges in this mock election. Anyway, I still didn't know any better in junior high, I remember voting for Bush again in a 7th grade social studies poll on the 2004 elections. I recall the teacher saying even the results amongst one class were usually a pretty accurate reflection of the actual election results, right down to the goob who voted for Nader.

It took me going to college in the purplest damn section of a pretty red state for me to come to terms with what I actually believed and felt about people and politics. Further education was definitely key, and intertwined with that, it opened me up to people. Just talking to people in an environment where you're all on essentially the same operating level day to day is huge.

My dad kept doing his thing in the small town where everyone knew everyone and somehow managed to sleep with everyone, too. He turned into a Trumper. I did my thing and I admit, it took me a lot of those four years of working on projects and getting pissed about loans together but really just enjoying life with a modestly diverse, pretty tolerant student body (still a lot of white raised-as-protestant types) to undo the damage of a conservatively skewed and Catholic childhood. But I can tell you that by 2014 I was annoyed at myself for not caring about the 2012 election, this first time I could vote. And you can guess I most certainly never even considered supporting Trump or any of the terrible things he represents when he suddenly-to-me showed up.

Would it make any reasonable sense for my dad to go to college at his age? No, probably not. But how do we get people to "simply" live around and be exposed to more people with relatively little prejudice in social status?

Do we just ... Idk where I'm going with this I got high but wait just a tick here did I just reason myself into communism ^fuckity^^shit^

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

This country is failing a lot of people. The only ones who really benefit are the rich.

[–] [email protected] 173 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That 48% makes me so fucking sad...

[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 days ago (9 children)

It’s mostly kids mimicking their parents feelings. Which is not the MOST sad. But still not great.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think this is much sadder than just the parents thinking like this. Kids should get to be kids and start their lives unencumbered by their parents' hatred and bitterness.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Had some people in a duel enrollment (collage level) class tell me last Friday that they'd vote for trump because "he's an asshole but I like his policies"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Don't worry, at the collage level they're just bringing a bunch of pictures together

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

"What policies?"

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But was that enough to win the Nickelodeon's Kids Electoral College?

[–] [email protected] 111 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It wouldn't be an electoral college in this case. It would be an electoral... middle school?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Take your upvote and leave.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're still looking into it. There is currently some debate about some 'hanging Cheetos' and they're going to ask Mom and Dad to clarify some wording.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Helga Pataki* is demanding they recount Florida

*No I cannot make a more current Nickelodeon reference

[–] [email protected] 105 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When Harris wins she needs to weaponize the military against the children who chose Trump. It's only fair.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine the shitstorm if she would've said that instead of Trump.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine the shit storm of she wasn't completely on-the-ball at every second of the campaign.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What kind of f-ed up kid votes for Trump?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

The kind whose parents watch media that demonizes the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

This is 90% just a proxy for how their parents will vote.

Its only a very small portion of kids that age who are going to have substantially different views than their parents (not that they don't exist!)

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So, now we know why the conservatives are so hell-bent on defunding the education system In America…

It’s for votes!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

So close? Sad.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago (3 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Pick_the_President

"Since 1988, Kids Pick the President has accurately predicted the winner of each election with the exceptions of the 2004 and 2016 presidential elections."

[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, those two are not good ones to get wrong.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If it was 2000 and 2016 I'd be more concerned

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

Maybe a little, but not much

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In 2016 the kids favored Clinton by 17 points (36% Trump to 53% Clinton)

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Those kids should have voted 3rd party instead of picking one of those two fascists.

/s

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They includes 3rd parties in 2016, but did not in 2020 and 2024, hence the different margins. And the 3rd party they included was of the Republican spoiler type rather than the Democratic spoiler type

They had way higher third party votes in their poll than actually occured - and the third party votes in 2016 were higher than usual (helping trump narrowly win in 2016)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump is still kind of a meme candidate, so I think a lot of it might be that. Kamala is obviously better to someone that knows but she's also "boring"

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Watch this be correct and nickelodeon replaces Nate Silver as the new polling god.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Losing candidate gets slimed.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Well, at least we're consistently awful

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Thanks to the electoral elementary, Trump still wins another term in the principals office.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Parents voting or telling the kids how to vote.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

100% of kids are dumb, 48% of them have Republican parents.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

100% of kids are dumb. So far.

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