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Netanyahu heckled by families of Israelis killed on 7 October (thecradle.co)

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Israelis (not Jews) who protest the genocide only do so because it didn't bring back the hostages. They don't give a shit otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm as jaded as anyone on social media, but I do believe there are Israelis that oppose Netanyahu and his murderous regime.

I understand if the families only care about the hostages, as they have a personal grievance. But I don't believe every Israelite is blind to the horror.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Polls suggest that they are 10% or less of the population though there is a severe crackdown on dissent in Israel now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah and with the effectiveness of the Mossad, who is going to admit to operating the regime. Imagine if the gestapo had that kind of surveillance possibilities

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

If they could do a genocide without costing any Israeli lives, they would in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What about minors who were born in Israel? What about Israeli expats who moved to other countries in protest?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are those the people protesting? No, so who knows what you’re on about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Young Israelis refuse to participate in Gaza genocide: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XQhQnlEK6k8

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I thought we were talking about the specific protesters this article is about.

To the best of my knowledge, most of the protests—and all of the large ones—in Israel this past year have not been about Palestinian lives or self-determination.

However, there have indeed been a few small Israeli anti-Zionist protests in Israel, despite the risks. Israel’s ‘anti-Zionists’ brave police beatings, smears to demand end to war

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I hope their colony falls apart from within

[+] [email protected] -42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nelson Mandela was a terrorist in the US till 2008. Do you consider him as a resistance fighter now?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol maybe you should stick to fascist media then.

[+] [email protected] -43 points 3 days ago (6 children)

And you should go live in an Islamist state since you think literal terrorist groups are so progressive.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The literal terrorist groups are the Israeli settler-colonial genocidaires and their enabler, the United States.

Guess who designated Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorists: the very same terrorist states, Israel and the US.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What are you going to tell me next that Osama bin Laden was also a freedom fighter and 9/11 was justified?

All of you have shit for brains if you think Islamic fundamentalists are progressive freedom fighters while the entire rest of the world is in the wrong.

If you like these groups so much then why don't you go live in the countries they run or ones that are run according to similar ideologies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What are you going to tell me next that Osama bin Laden was also a freedom fighter and 9/11 was justified?

Why are you bringing up someone who is nothing like Hamas or Hezbollah? This is a strawman.

All of you have shit for brains if you think Islamic fundamentalists are progressive freedom fighters while the entire rest of the world is in the wrong.

First of all, no one is saying that they are “progressive”—whatever that might mean—and second of all “the entire rest of the world” isn’t “progressive.” This is a bullshit pinkwashing argument. Against the pinkwashing of Israel. If genocide isn’t progressive, then neither the US nor Israel is either.

If you like these groups so much then why don’t you go live in the countries they run or ones that are run according to similar ideologies?

“If you like it so much why don’t you go live there?” What are you, twelve? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

9/11 was a false flag dude. Osama literally said he didn't do it on video and later a fat version of him said he did it. Hamas aren't Islamic fundamentalists btw. Literally watch any video from Palestine. Islamic fundamentalists are the ones the US and Israel are backing. ISIS. ISIS-K. Al-quaeda. White helmets. All of them US or Israel funded or backed. Ah and how can I forget about ETIM.

If you like these groups so much then why don’t you go live in the countries they run or ones that are run according to similar ideologies?

The US is destabilizing ALL of them, besides the comprador ones like UAE and Saudi Arabia. I don't think I would mind living in Iran or a non-destabilized Lebanon. Indonesia and Malaysia area also decent places to live if you have money (relatively).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

9/11 was a false flag dude. Osama literally said he didn't do it on video and later a fat version of him said he did it.

I have no desire to argue with brain dead conspiracy theorists any longer.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Op didn't claim that literal terrorist groups are so progressive. You're swatting a strawman.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Eh, the IDF is a terrorist group too, so Israel isn't off the board.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hamas is not a terrorist group, the IDF is. What the fuck is it with this both sides bullshit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They both can be, but Hamas is a terrorist organization that has committed terrorist attacks. Al Qaeda is terrorist group and committed many terrorist attacks, but the U.S. war on terrorism killed and displaced many innocents in Afghanistan, Iraq and other middle eastern countries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

They both can be, but Hamas is a terrorist organization that has committed terrorist attacks.

Yeah, according to the US and Israel—which, I cannot stress enough, are terrorist states—Hamas is a terrorist organization, but that does not make it so. Western governments and Western corporate media can designate anyone to be anything, but that doesn’t make it so. They are not the arbiters of truth, they are propagandists for empire.

Palestinian right of armed resistance

[UN] General Assembly resolution A/RES/38/17 (22/11/1983) stated that it "Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for their independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, apartheid and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle".

Furthermore, As an Occupier, Israel Has No Right to ‘Self-Defense’.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sure two groups can both be bad. That doesn't make Hamas and Hazbollah saints.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

since you think literal terrorist groups are so progressive

That doesn't make Hamas and Hazbollah saints

Are you familiar with the term 'strawman'

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Suppose you're a gay Palestinian. Who do you think is more likely to kill you: Hamas or the IDF?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

hannibal directive

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

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