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"In the early 21st century, there was a genre of art where hands were drawn either with an incorrect number of fingers or other mutations. We believe this style of art was used for ritual purposes. Strangely, this movement of art lasted a very short period of time, from 2023 before gradually disappearing by around 2025"

EDIT for those who didn't get it, it's because some newer image generators draw better hands

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

In the future, kids will watch The Flintstones and laugh at the antennae TVs and landlines in Bedrock and think that the antiquated tech is the joke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

They might just do that today

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Everything is extensively documented these days. If any future society has access to those photos, and understands they're AI generated, they'll also have access to our history.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

But what if there’s some sort of nuclear/zombie/robot/alien-apocalypse which results in tremendous data loss. Maybe a thousand years from now a future archeologist wonders why there are so many cursed pictures from a particular era. That might be a deeply unsettling mystery until someone finds an ancient research document about image generating AI. However, if nobody finds that document, the archeologists might just go with the traditional “ritual purposes” explanation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

What's a bit more likely is that, in the future, the "Department Of Truth" will have access to all digital information and will have no trouble at all re-writing history at will.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't project the future through the same eyes you observe the past with.

Things like this usually don't happen because unless it was more than 100 years the past there is empirical accounts of whatever it is theyre pondering about.

The other side is how noone has gotten to the point of studying the history of technology. I mean I'm under 40 and I remember life with no internet in the house muchness in your pocket.

Also dont forget were recording humanity at an unprecedented scale now and show no signs of slowing. There will likely be a flood of media and resources to actually watch how most shit in the past was done 100-500 years from now.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The other side is how noone has gotten to the point of studying the history of technology.

Drag is pretty sure lots of archeologists have studied technology. For example there was the search for the recipe for Roman concrete.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

I like to think they will think it was a kind of "aggressive architecture" to keep people away from looking at these pictures because they are cursed. Especially because, with everything happening all over the world, it is not too much to think that the future could be a dystopian, extremely religious world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Fool. You act like AI shit won't be that common in 2025. /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

it's already pretty much fixed in Flux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

"Flux" is the name of an open source image generating AI model. You can run it on your own hardware.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

what blue magma says. it's great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

also, it's funny that people get mad at me (referring to the downvores) simply for stating a fact. it conflicts with their narrative that AI is stupid and bad and useless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Nice profile picture, by the way!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

They must not fix this. I was happily second screening a fall themed YouTube music channel and my wife walked past and went "oh that AI whacked one" I go "nah" it's just normal Rockwell inspired". We wait a couple of seconds and the very next pic has some well drawn kids and books... Most with 5 fingers and two thumbs per hand and I go dammit they got me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah it'll be like what we think of this kind of art.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

"Keyframe animation isn't art"

"EDM isn't music. Pressing a button isn't music"

/s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

My take is that EDM is created by humans and RUN on computers. And no I wouldn’t say that pressing a button is a musical talent at all. Though I don’t think anyone is arguing this point.

But pressing a button to play a music track of ART that was created by a human being- isn’t AI.

So there’s the separation. AI “art” isn’t art if a human being isn’t involved in its creation. It’s thoughtless and emotionless imagery.

Humans create art. Machines don’t.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"Hip Hop isn't music. Sampling old tracks isn't music"

"Rock'n'Roll ~~isn't music~~ is the devil's music."

But then again, AI art takes all the humanity out of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Depends on how you look at it. These models weren't trained in a vacuum. They were trained on data generated by humans. They are the amalgamation of all human art throughout human history. They are a reflection of us, the way a child is a reflection of their parents.

That being said, I am very excited for art generated by collaboration between humans and these models. I for one would love Castle Swimmer (a webcomic) to be turned into an animation. Currently, no one will fund any such project. With video gen models however, I'm very positive we would get to see this.

The original author's story is still there. Her characters are there, her dialogues are there. They're just brought to life visually. I still find a lot of humanity in this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

It is art.

See? Convincing argument isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Its their Original Sin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

No, we don’t.