this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2024
309 points (93.5% liked)

No Stupid Questions

35581 readers
1384 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
(page 3) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most people aren't all that well informed and don't do a lot of crtical thinking about their political positions on things. Many people are only guided by their emotions.

If your Church says that life begins at conception, then abortion is killing babies. So you'd be angry about abortions happening.

If you hear a horrible crime, you're angry about that and might want the person that did that crime to be executed. If you never hear about or think about innocent people being execute, never consider the ethical problems with a government killing people, never consider the costs of it, and all the other arguments against the death penalty, then you can go through life thinking there's no problem with it.

And even if you hear the rational arguments, they get overpowered by emotion the next time someone says "abortion is murder" or you hear about a horrible crime happening that might qualify for the death penalty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This. People are not that complicated

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Because they are hypocrites, once that baby leaves the womb they give zero fucks.

Don't get an abortion, also we aren't paying for that kids lunch

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

How come *some people who are against abortion are *also in favor of the death penalty? (Ftfy) Kind of seems like a contradicition/

What contradiction do you speak of? Save a life, take a life. Seems logical doesn't it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

To be fair to those people (which I'm really not inclined to be), I'm pro-choice but strongly against the death penalty. So I guess it swings both ways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

it doesn't swing both ways. They are claiming the position of being "pro life" which is clearly hypocritical. No one on the other side is claiming to be "pro death" or "anti life".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That's a good point, actually. I hadn't thought it through enough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I blame religion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

These same people also solve seem to give af about the suffering of children outside of the border of the country.

I've yet to hear any evangelical cry about dead Palestinian children or the suffering of children on the other side of the American Mexican border.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

It ultimately is religious belief.

Religious people believe the soul enters the body at conception, granting personhood, so abortion is murder. They also believe that people put to death will go before God, where they will be judged as evil and sent to Hell for eternal punishment.

Everything else is just window dressing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Punishment. They aren't against abortion, they're pro punishment. They don't think any laws should be about mitigation or helping, only as a means of punishing.

It's in how they talk: "she should have kept her legs closed"; "that's what you get for being a slut"; "if you don't want to have a baby, don't have sex". The pregnancy is a punishment for anyone who wants to have sex, but doesn't want to have children. And jail or death is the punishment for avoiding that previous punishment.

When talking about gun control, too: "why should I - a law abiding citizen - be punished for the actions of a few criminals?"; "ShAlL noT bE INfrInGeD". They don't want laws to do anything but punish. Mitigation? Expansion of freedoms of "them"? No.

Look at voter ID laws: they're restrictive to our freedom, but proposed as punishment for "fraud".

And it often stems from an individualistic and Evangelical ideal. Everyone is "responsible" for their actions. There are no systemic issues in the mind of an evangelical. God is punishing the individual. The laws are punishing the individual. We don't need to change, because we includes I, and I don't need to change, because "I'm a good Christian warrior in the fight against evil".

And evangelicals definitely think there is a spiritual war going on, so punishment of the "wicked" is always an option. Because being wicked is an individual issue.

(Also why they think drug addiction is a moral failing of the individual, not a societal one, and therefore they should be punished).

Right now, evangelicalism and their Christofascist views are moving into political positions of power. They have tons of money coming in, and even if Fuckface 45 (their evangelical God-king warrior) doesn't get into office, they'll still continue to influence policy and grab seats of power.

We need to be aware of them, and stop them at every pass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll just say that able minded people, usually adults, are usually responsible of their actions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I'm trying to be the devil's advocate here: one could say that one is an innocent "life" while the other is not.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I have the same question for the opposite as well. Or for being for abortion and also vegan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a non vegan dude but this is gonna be my easiest argument... here goes:

consent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Well, one difference is that the prisoner is not housed inside an unwilling woman's womb. That's not where steaks and pork chops come from either. Hope that helps.

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

Underlying their shallow morals is a undiagnosed mental condition. More often than not from my perspective its usually a cluster B personality disorder. NPD/BPD or one of the others variants. They simply lack the ability to see their hypocrisy. They lack the basic empathy necessary to realize it. Due to this they a mortally afraid of therapy and are not likely to ever get better. What we have to do is improve identifying them and preventing their illness from destroying those around them. Not likely to happen when so many of them are elected to office. If you haven't noticed mental health systems in this country are In a shambles. This is not a accident.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago

Because they’re goddamned thoughtless morons.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago

Punishment fetish.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago

Because they're not pro life, they're pro suffering.

And they want to control others (against their will if possible), so ending someone's life and forcing someone to gestate a baby or die in the process fall in exactly the same bag.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›