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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Can you milk a bee? I didn't think so!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Honey can be vegan. I have a friend who keeps endangered bees and as an unintended side effect of fostering their growth has honey that she has to give away because she doesn’t want it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Genuine question, I would like to know if there is a reason. Why doesn't she just let the bees keep it?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

Isn't that vegetarian, not vegan though?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Playing devil's advocate, this could be sidestepping the issue, because the honey is only an unintended side effect from your friend's POV, not the bee's.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Non vegan here. 🤔

Soooooo honey is not extracted directly from the bees, so that would be an argument to declare honey vegan.

On the other hand, even with modern beekeeping tech and modular hives, one could argue the act of taking honey to be a serious intrusion on the bees' life, so that could be an argument that honey is not vegan.

One could argue where the line lies with eusocial organisms. Do you consider the individual bees or do you consider the whole hive? Whole hive? Honey may not be vegan. Individual insects? Honey could be vegan.

It really depends on your standards. One vegan friend of mine does drink mead (honey wine, for the uninformed) for instance.

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