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Aside from racism. I mean economically/socially, what issues does too much immigration cause?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It depends a bit on how you define immigration. Is what the Spaniards and English did to the Americas immigration or something else?

If the influx of a different culture is so big that it displaces you and your children like it did to the Native Americans, then I understand that you'd want to stop it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Is what the Spaniards and English did to the Americas immigration

Uhh

No.

Weird place for your mind to even go.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If you provide real social security for anyone in the country and don't limit immigration at all, you attract people who aren't willing or able to work and want to live off social security.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no or a very small impact of regulation on the number of exiled people coming in country. However, making more people illegal let bosses exploit them more. Those workers could not sue their boss because of those regulations, and most conservative unions rely unfortunately too much on legal solutions.

So if a country couldn't limit immigrations, it could exploit more people and bybass human right with regulations against exiled people.

Yes, this is only positive for far-right bosses, and awful for others. But guess who decide in a capitalist economy ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Not sure why you were downvoted, but this is a good point. In fact, I find it interesting that the US hasn't stopped pretending and just lifted the law against hiring illegal immigrants.

It's the main argument on how to stop illegal immigration, no one seems to talk about. Instead of building walls, jailing people or even shooting them for crossing the border, they should crack down on the people who hire them. To me it's just conservatives admitting that their opinions are just racist.

Sorry if you the conversation was about Europe. Just relating it to home.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If immigration leads to more unemployment, then that is an economic problem, especially in the hypothetical case where the social benefits system is getting more and more strained by an influx of unemployed people. But generally, I think that you can expect that the immigrants will soon find employment. Besides that, there's the cultural aspect that @[email protected] mentioned. You could also make the point that the country's infrastructure is more and more stressed as the population grows, but that is fixable and potentially counteracted by the labour potential of the immigrants themselves (i.e., qualified immigrant work forces can make a large-scale infrastructure overhaul possible that will lead to greater national capacities and a net benefit for the entire population).

Aside from these things, I would argue that most of the other reasons boil down to xenophobia or racism.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Many people believe that too much immigration causes the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group by means such as the disintegration of its political and social institutions, of its culture, language, national feelings, religion, and its economic existence.

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