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I used to think "chaos" had the same "ch" as "church" when I was a kid. Don't know why I never heard it spoken aloud by someone earlier than I did.
But the one that I find inexcusable is Southern US people who pronounce "jalapeno" with a "j" and "n" instead of an "ha" and "ñ" even though they know better. Sounds so willfully ignorant
I have noticed a lot of (youtube) people are keenly aware of their faults. Admitting you have a thing to try improve up on, is an triple up that I can unfortunately only give as 1/3 of a triple agree. If you know you are butchering grammar/spelling, giving a pre-warning is only going to make it funny.
Currently staying here for a week and I have no idea how to pronounce Etobicoke. I'm sure it's not "Et oh buy coke". I asked a couple of canadiens but that hasn't helped because what comes out of their mouth is so far removed from the spelling.
I wonder if by the same criteria the opposite also holds true. Are misspelled words dishonorable? And if yes does it matter if they're nouns or other functional words like there/they're/their ?
See holler, tow-up.
Hysteresis got me.
Since we're on the topic there's this historical word that I haven't heard pronounced in English, Alexander the Great had a bunch of generals that were called the Diadochi, I haven't seen this term pronounced in English, but recently I've taken into account the way English speakers pronounce words and I was wondering if the way I'm pronouncing it in English is correct or if I am just wrong.
I've been pronouncing it in an English context as: "Die-a-Dough-key" I'm no linguist so I'm not sure how to write pronunciations sorry if it looks dumb.
It's Διάδοχοι so rather Dee-AH-Do-(c)hee with accent on A, actually more like thee-AH-do-hee but that might sound a bit weird if you don't have a feel for greek pronounciation. A small tip is that "i" is never pronounced as in "die" in greek but as "ee" (or as in "tin" if short).
~~Edit: I know modern greek, not ancient. The χ might have been more like a K (as the end of truck) in ancient times but I'm not sure. My suggestion above would be a lot closer to the correct pronunciation though.~~
Dee-AH-doh-kee like in ancient greek is probably what you want to use. Sorry for the confusion.
I wonder how this works for logographic systems like Chinese, where the letter tells you nothing about the sound (though tbf English spelling is so bad that it's almost at that level too).
I studied Malayalam (the language of Kerala state in southern India) and the script was fucking awesome. It's purely syllabic and it's impossible to pronounce a written word wrong - you just sound out the syllables and you've got it. Everything else about the language was impossibly alien to me as a native English speaker (like you can't just say yes or no, you can only negate or affirm other words), but at least the script was easy.
I was pronouncing "Byrne" like "buy-er-nie" until I saw someone who had that last name pronounce it like "burn". The way I was pronouncing it was as if I was excitedly saying "bye Ernie" 😂
I refuse to believe unscurpulous is pronounced in that goofy ass way. People say that in courtrooms goddamn it.
This happens to me a lot in the medical field. "Parenchymal" has been my most recent, and I have to think about it every time I hear it or try to say it
I read it in my head as PAIR-EN-KIME-AL, but it's pronounced PA-RINKA-MAL... though how I read it does help me to spell it
Some words I still can't pronounce, but I know how to "read", such as "klebsiella aerogenes"
While we're on the subject: "Tachypneic" is pronounced like "TA-KIP-NIK", but I never hear anyone try and pronounce "Bradypneic". One would assume that it's pronounced like "BRA-DIP-NIK" (or maybe "BRAY-DIP-NIK"), but I can't confirm. I think saying "bradypneic" intimidates people
English fails hard at conveying phonetics through written language. In Brazilian portuguese (my native language) those words would be written as:
The lack of diacritics (and several other characteristics) makes English really easy to learn but in contrast you get those kinds of problems. I’ve never seen anyone get those words wrong in my field (I’m a vet)
That's really cool, and I appreciate the insight! I always liked Spanish ('Latin American' in my case) because you can pronounce the words as they are spelled. Doesn't matter if you know what it means, but you can still pronounce it (for the most part)
I've always been told that Portuguese is like "Spanish and French had a baby". Not sure how much truth there is to that, but a quick anecdote: My wife and I were in a cab with a native Portuguese speaker who knew a bit of English and a bit of Romantic languages. My wife knows a bit of French; I know a bit of Spanish... and between the three of us, we were able to speak to each other in a kinda "creole type" delivery. It was really cool to experience
Lastly, I have to ask... do you think "bradypneic" would be pronounced "BRAY-DIP" or "BRA-DIP" in English?
This happened to me.... The word was hyperbole. I said it as hyper bowl ee.
The kicker is I've heard the word hyperbole before, pronounced correctly, and never knew what it meant, nor how it was spelled.
So I spoke to someone who was a bit more linguistically inclined, both verbally and written (hes also older than me by a few years, and more "into" art and culture)... And he said "you mean hyperbole?" And everything finally clicked. At the time I was embarrassed because I knew both the written and pronounced versions of it, but never put them together, so I felt like it was something I should have been able to figure out on my own and didn't.
Now? If someone made the same correction to something similar, I'd be like. Ohhhhhh. That makes more sense. Thanks! Instead, I basically exited the situation to go die in private from embarrassment.
I should not have been embarrassed.
I love learning new things.
As a kid I used to pronounce amoeba as “a-MO-ba” instead of “a-MEE-ba”.
About 20 years ago when memes started appearing there was a site called memebase. I pointed it out to someone and he laughed at me for pronouncing it mêmebase because I speak french
Poutain 😂
My wife is Jewish. One day when she was very little, she and her mother were walking around the neighborhood and saw a Christmas wreath hanging somewhere. Having previously read the word in a book where it was spelled a lot like the word "breath," she asked her mother why they didn't have a "wreth" in their home.
In our household we now and forever pronounce it "wreth" on purpose because of how much I love that story.
When I was younger and listening to The Hunger Games, I thought the boy's name was Peter and my narrator just had an accent.