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Vice President Kamala Harris gave the public its first real look into her nascent presidential campaign with a stop at her organization’s headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware on Monday night.

Harris’ first applause line came when she discussed her background as California attorney general and as a courtroom prosecutor.

“In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all kinds,” she said, earning cackles while she beamed, clearly enjoying the joke. “Predators who abused women. Fraudsters who ripped off consumers. Cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain. So hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump’s type.”

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[–] [email protected] 226 points 4 months ago (13 children)

she needs to specifically call out every single bullshit thing he's ever done, starting from trump "university" all the way up to the catastrophic covid response, the ukraine phone calls, the stolen documents, and on and on.

she needs to dial it up to 11 and keep it there. it's time to throw out this "let's take the high road" attitude that's accomplished exactly jack fucking shit over the last too many decades

[–] [email protected] 97 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (14 children)

she needs to specifically call out every single bullshit thing he's ever done

There isn't enough hours left until election day to list all of it.

Also, maybe she should try another tactic than the one that BARELY worked for her predecessor the last time around playing on the much easier "people are experiencing how awful Trump is as president RIGHT NOW" difficulty level.

If she wants to win and win big (which is the only outcome that isn't humiliating and dangerous for democracy), she needs more than "Trump bad". She's going to need some "Kamala good" to energize the base.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm all for it. Give me something to look forward to, not something to run from, for once this decade

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Fear drives people to the polls though. It's kinda sad but true. So there needs to be a mix.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago

She got off to a good start already.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Biden may have accidentally called Zelenskyy Putin. At an open meeting, but Trump likely calls Putin 'boss' in hidden ones"

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Every fucking time he opens his mouth, she should interrupt him with "prove it". Like, he says the sky is blue? Fucking prove it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I doubt she wants to spend 12 hours listing off Trump's shitty behavior and crimes. Ain't nobody got time for that.

And anyone who doesn't know about what a piece of shit he is by now probably won't listen to it anyways.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

...listing off Trump’s shitty behavior and crimes.

New filibuster strategy just dropped.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's no low road here. That dude's in a submarine.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Hell yeah. I like to say that when they go low, kick them while they're down there!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

She needs all 8 years just to finish the list.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for the "abortions after birth" challenge to the lying coward treasonous pedophile rapist.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Opens Fire On Trump

Glad to see they didn't shy away from using this terminology, considering recent events.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 95 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Honestly, this is the kind of down-in-the-dirt campaigning I had hoped to see from Hillary back in 2016 before she tied an apron on and tried to convince everyone she was a sweet little motherly person. You can't be sweet and kind with someone like Trump. You need to gather up the shit he's piling up around the place and drown his ass in it.

So if Kamala is gonna bring the pain, I'm here for it. Trump needs to be beaten bloody on the pulpit. Because bullies can never handle being bullied themselves. Especially ones as thin skinned and stupid as Trump is.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 4 months ago (2 children)

She said building up the middle class would be a defining goal of her presidency,

Go on Kamala, you are making me hope you might be better than just "not trump." Let's hear some details that will be resistant to the 1% and their greed and get prices under control.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What about the working poor? That's a much larger group that is much more need of policy changes.

When it comes to economic reform (rather than compression, according to that show with the hand job calculations), from the bottom up is many times more effective than the middle out shit the Dems keep trying.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

What about the working poor? That’s a much larger group that is much more need of policy changes.

Um, OK. I'm on board. Are we supposed to argue now?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Nah, I'm good

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not OP, but good on you two.

Id argue middle class are now also the working poor

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

The problem is that the overwhelming majority of the working poor in America consider themselves "middle class". So that's how you have to direct your message if you want it to reach the most people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Getting low income people to the polls is a big part of this. If a particular group does not vote, then politicians have no incentive to care about them.

https://nlihc.org/resource/new-census-data-reveal-voter-turnout-disparities-2022-midterm-elections

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah. This is getting me slightly excited again. I’m an independent voter and have never voted Democrat but I may just well do that this time. Couldn’t stomach Biden but she seems to actually know what the hell she is talking about. Please go after Congressional term limits, tax the crap out of the rich, and reform lobbying with solid game plans. Talk is cheap.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I am frustrated that we didn't get to pick our candidate in the primaries, I don't know if Harris is my style. She might be.

But God damn I am looking forward to her going head to head with Trump. She is sharp as hell on her feet.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I was not a harris booster previously but the biggest complaint I have about her, "Copmala" is actually a significant strength in this election. Then I started reading into her voting record. Combine that with her being a woman in the post roe v wade world, and a woman of color against the most xenophobic party that any of us have experienced and I think she's EXACTLY what we need.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Convicted felon, rapist and racist.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Harris opted for liable of scamming, sexual abuse, and guilty of fraud on thirty-four counts instead of fraud, rape, and convicted of thirty-four felonies. Great start, but she should not shy from harsh rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

First woman president is a hail mary in the last months of election year? Sounds like humanity to me.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, we're a lot more interested now, aren't we?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I want that debate between her and poor Donnie. This woman ia going to roast the shit out of him with her professional experience.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s what’s needed. The older boomer republicans (not die hard MAGA’s, there’s a lot more of the at least rational ones out there) need to see her wipe the floor with him with facts and tough questions he outright lies to, to have a chance of changing their vote.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

With respect, anyone who would vote for Trump probably isn't worth spending time convincing. Some of them might come around, but if she has one, Kamala's value will be in getting undecided and first time voters to the polls. One of the most popular choices every election is "not going to vote"

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

She should point out, repeatedly, that the man has no financial skills at all. Keep hammering how bad he was for workers and the economy in general but still turned a tidy profit for himself. He would actually have more wealth now if he had just invested his inheritance in the S&P (according to Forbes) instead of starting all his cockamamie businesses. The man ran how many casinos into the ground? He went bankrupt in businesses where people say "the house always wins" because the odds are literally stacked in the house's favor.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

She needs to go, repeatedly like, "I mean... He bankrupted a casino... A casino" and, "Speaking of predator, this manchild lied about his associations with Epstein while also flying on his private plane at least 7 times. Would you let him watch your daughter? HELL NO."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't even let him watch his own daughter

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All she has to do is keep calling him weak publicly and he will fucking lose it

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

Finally, someone who is actually willing to treat Trump's many flaws as weakpoints.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bold phrasing from The Daily Beast.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Watch Trump go into Bobby Newport mode:

“Hey… that hurt my feelings!”

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Trump has the impulse control of a squirrel on meth, and an assertive brown woman is pretty much his nightmare (and the sum of all reactionary fears). Trump being made sport of by a minority woman is going to drive him off the rails. The racism and misogyny will be fully unleashed and I suspect he will die by the ugly sword he himself forged.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Keep it punchy, don’t waste too much time bashing Trump or else the whole campaign is about him.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Oh yeah... That's the stuff!

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