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Dems control the Senate. For the House, would just need a couple repubs to flip. Otherwise it would have to be left vacant I suppose. Mike Johnson being next in line does not worry me.

Correct, Harris would not automatically become the dem nominee. However, assuming Biden's chosen delegates are loyal to him, I think it's reasonable to guess they would honor his chosen successor and voluntarily vote according to his wishes.

A convention is a possibility, and I'm not completely against it. It complicates matters severely though, and not for very significant gain since citizens can't really vote again in such a short timeframe.

Yeah, she's far from perfect. But, it's better than a big, chaotic, unprecedented free-for-all. Everyone was expecting 4 more years of this administration anyway.

Tbh, I think that Harris is a big ol nothingburger of a candidate. Fox news got conservatives to hate her easy enough for the crime of being a [black, woman] Democrat, but that doesn't mean anything to independents. Harris is disappointing to more libertarian minded and further left folks (like me) because she was kind of a stupidly aggressive DA, but I don't think that really bothers independents either. Harris herself had a middling debate performance in 2020, but still managed to beat the pants off Biden, who appeared DOA on the 2020 primary stage. She's never espoused any especially strong policy positions that I know of, either, besides being another authoritarian centrist.

All of this kind of wraps up into a very boring, plain vanilla candidate, which could well work to the democrats' advantage in this election cycle. Here's my opinion: Harris has several key advantages over Biden.

• People are tired of feeling like we're on a cursed timeline, a normal candidate without obvious sundowner's or a serious case of fascism would likely be welcomed. Harris is about as average as they come, imo.

• She can actually talk. Let's face it, the Biden of 2020 and 2012 is mostly gone, he can't communicate like he used to, and pretending otherwise isn't helping. Harris was a DA in her past life. Lawyers, and especially DAs, have to be able to communicate effectively. My guess is that if you put a little polish on her, an absolute bull of a speaker/debater will shine through. It's just that the democrats haven't really given her a chance to shine. That or the possibility that same as they've been hiding Biden's condition, they're hiding that Harris is a truly wretched communicator who has wound up here through a comedy of errors, but I'm relying on Occam's Razor here.

• The one time she stood out at all in the primary debates was when she put Biden on absolute blast for his record with regard to the black community. It wasn't smooth, it was obviously rehearsed, but it still landed a haymaker. It's not a stretch to think she could do the same to Trump.

• Being a nothing candidate could actually be advantageous because, I mean, how do you attack that? She has almost no real baggage compared to Biden or Trump, and it wouldn't be hard for her to just set up a smorgasbord of different policy choices without sounding like a hypocrite or flip flop.

I really wish the democrats had had the foresight to prepare for this moment by picking a much better VP, or having an open and honest primary, but we're here now and there's nothing we can do about the past. Imo, Harris is the best chance we've got of keeping the fascists out for the next four years.

Most people don't like Biden. More than don't like Harris. There was some early idea that Harris was uniquely disliked that people keep propagating for some reason. She's not a superstar, she lost the primary for a reason, but she's not some especially toxic politician. At least not for anyone who would say "keeping Biden is better".

If Biden could prove the debate was a one off he would have done so. His continued lack luster perform after the debate shows what the road to November looks like with him. Dems lose. Because most people who would vote blue will do so anyway. It's the 1 in 100 on the margins that will decide this thing. If Biden nominee = Trump 2nd presidency = all of the terror that comes with it, then who gives a flying fuck if Kamala right now polls even with Biden.

She'd probably pick a straight white guy to try to defuse some bigotry concerns, but in my fantasies she picks Katie Porter.

🤞Bernie Sanders 🤞

I don't think we need someone popular to beat Trump. Just someone that can run a strong campaign.

Trumps fans may love him, but he is not himself a broadly popular figure in any other circles.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is a time-honored Democrat tradition.

And racism. Can't forget the racism!

Aren't all of the misogynists already voting for Trump? I think just being a younger woman candidate could energize the younger voting base.