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England has continued to issue permits allowing people to kill badgers to protect cattle from disease, despite local extinctions and scientific evidence stating that badger culling is not the best way to protect bovines. What's happening?

The Guardian reported that it accessed leaked documents showing that England's Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs issued 17 new licenses in June that allow people to kill badgers. The publication explains that badger culling has been used in the country for years to stop the spread of bovine tuberculosis to cattle and has led to local extinctions.

However, scientific reports have shown that culling badgers is not the most effective way to stop the spread of this disease, and DEFRA's decision overrules the advice of its own scientific adviser, Peter Brotherton, director of science for Natural England.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As someone whose family keeps cows:

DEFRA are less concerned with eradicating TB in cattle than protecting beef exports. There has been a vaccine for bovine TB for years. But it is not compatible with the skin test which is a prerequisite for exporting beef to most countries (the current test doesn't work on vaccinated cattle). They are in the process of developing a new test, which is taking years and will then need to be incorporated into international trading standards, which isn't going to be quick either.

All of which is just masking the root cause of TB's prevalence anyway, which is effectively 'battery' farming cows. Who would have thought that cramming a maximum number of animals into a minimum sized space would result in an airborne disease spreading through them? These places are basically like Victorian workhouses or WW1 trenches, which were notorious for being hotbeds of tuberculosis in humans.

If you're a farmer though, that's how you need to keep animals if you want to be competitive in the market. Unless you're lucky enough to have inherited a large amount of land and decide to use it to prioritise the health of your animals over maximising profits.

Maybe a techno-fix will sustain this for a while but ultimately it's too meshed in with the inertia of capitalist economics and demand for low cost animal products for the problem to be properly solved.

Shooting badgers has been used to kick the can down the road and avoid sincerely tackling the problem of bovine TB, while also throwing a toy to those in the rural community and humouring them by allowing them to hunt something. A shrewd move for a career politician but does nothing to look out for animals, farmers, vets, the public, the environment or the economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Thanks for sharing this. When I saw the headline, I knew there was going to be at least one better solution to the problem, but it was going to have an economic cost.

The western United States is going to kill half a million Barred Owls to try to save the endangered Spotted Owl. The Barred Owls have only moved in due to the destruction caused by the timber industry and climate change. Studies have showed a number of factors, like those I just mentioned, and also the more niche requirements of the Spotted Owl losing out to the more aggressive and adaptable Barred Owls. The only avenue that is being pursued is the owl killing, not better industry regulation. There has been legislation passed to protect the environment somewhat, but there are some major loopholes that still let the same destructive practices continue though.

How they expect to save the owl while still allowing the very specific habitat it needs to be destroyed is beyond me, and seems to be the same kicking of the can down the road that you mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you explain the skin test and why it doesn't work?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Two types of tuberculin are injected into the cow's neck; one bovine and one avian (the control). Three days later the resulting swellings are compared. A large enough swelling of the bovine injection site compared to the avian one is interpreted as evidence of an immune response having been mounted against it because the cow has previously been exposed to the bovine strain. In a cow that's been vaccinated, the skin test provokes an immune response in the same way as in a cow who is actively infected, rendering the test useless for detecting active infections i.e it produces false positives. Nobody will import your animals if they can't tell whether they've been vaccinated or are ridden with an infectious disease. A couple of countries have chosen to simply sacrifice exports and get on with vaccination, which is good in terms of preventing tens of thousands of cows being needlessly slaughtered early but it also means they can continue to keep the cows in the conditions that make diseases like TB spread in their herds. It's bad for the animals quality of life but it's also stupid because TB isn't the only disease which will emerge in herds kept in those conditions.

TLDR it's all short-term profit-driven thinking.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for that great explanation!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

No probs :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well, people shut their eyes and ears to anything scientific when it comes to killing animals, right? Not even speaking of the insane aversion to veganism but also people who hunt for fun or shoot trophies in "exotic" regions and stuff. Shit's cruel

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I don't defend the hunters themselves, I agree killing exotic species for fun is terrible.

I do defend the countries that have a regulated exotic hunting industry though. People will kill these animals regardless, and having an organized and legal avenue to do so has positive benefits, even though that doesn't make sense at first. Many species are saved, as people will spend a ton of money to kill something fancy (again, this is crazy to me) and rather than giving money to poachers, the money goes to conservationists. Why do conservationists let people kill the animal they're trying to save? Because they keep track of how many animals there are and only allow a certain number to be hunted. They take the money from that, and use that to fund their conservation. Where else would they be getting money to do the conservation? It is a steady and reliable source of money to fund the protection of animals. These crazy rich people know if they shoot all the endangered whatevers, then they can't do it anymore, so they just pay the money and get a plush experience instead of risking something illegal and having a difficult and uncomfortable time.

Think of it like illicit drugs. People will do it anyway. If it's legal, it can be monitored, it can be done much more safely, and profits can go to getting people with drug problems help, for example. Yes, people are still doing drugs, which we could debate all day long if that's ok or not, but the system as a whole is better because we actually know what it going on and can work with known, factual data, as opposed to guessing what is going on.

I hope that was helpful and non-controversial. I don't promote the process, but I do see it as a net positive, the same as I don't support heroin, but support safe injection sites and needle exchanges as I see those as a positive alternative to not having those things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

veganism is almost as bad as hunting for fun to be fair

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Statistically it is much worse. Hunting for fun is liscensed and controlled very rigorously, while similar protections are not in place when dealing with farm animals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

but my morals only allow me to care for photogenic farm animals, not those pesky nasty vermin that are exterminated by the tens of thousands in order to plant hectares of mostly nutritionally useless soy monocrop, all so I can follow a diet that will lead to me looking like a Holocaust victim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A lot of those crops are fed to meat animals. Wildlife dies. Animals in industrial units die. Vegans get too thin and die. Meat eaters get too fat and die.

Cats inherit the earth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Everything shits, everything dies. I love it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Dumbfuck redneck farmers want to shoot things.