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[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 year ago

Dear Americans,

Please stop.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A presidential candidate selling his mugshots to fund his campaign. Things are getting crazier and crazier in the USA as time goes by.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Feels like US actually deserves trump...

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This tells you all you need to know about his supporters.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its a joke to them. The same way that r/TheDonald started out as a joke, the same way that lemmygrad is a 'joke'.

Can't say I've found any of it super funny lately.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I assure you, Lemmygrad aren't in any way a joke, those fuckers write absolute treatsies for comments all of time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Ah yes.

.."Theory"..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Different joke, told more dryly.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This should tell you all something about the road you're all going down with this guy. Salivating at the prospect of a mugshot got you losing touch with the political landscape.

This guy's political brand is "the establishment is corrupt and out to get me because I challenge their corruption, the media is in on it." Every single thing you do to counter him strengthens him. You can't mock him because he's an unapologetic bufoon. And he has the perceived image of having tried to deliver on his promises and being blocked by the whole machine, seeing as he has been president before. ISIS destroyed, dollar a gallon gasoline, Israel having diplomatic relations with several Arab countries, this is a hard guy to beat politically, he has positioned himself nicely and branded himself just so that you cannot take his base from him no matter what you do, or what he does. "I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose a single vote" should make it very clear, this guy is 100% self aware, he knows exactly how he is perceived and he uses it as a strength.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are some things that work.

One is talking about him in a situation or context he doesn't get to have a say in. A court room setting or hearing can do this.

Ignoring him on stage. This worked for Biden. Speak about him in the third person and disrespect him in his presence and he'll become unhinged.

Women of power, and especially women of color of power, having the last word or final say.

If you know how to deal with narcissists, and lets be real, we've all got a few in our life, you can begin based on those strategies.

Your point about the media is well taken and on target. The big thing here would be to figure out how to make him the side show and no longer the main attraction. The media machine is fickle and easily bored. The strategy would be to make everything Trump somehow boring, and to get something much more interesting on screen.

Its some wag the dog shit, but if the D's were clever they'd be trying to work something up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's another thing, what you said about the media. 5d chess bullshit aside, the guy knows how to spot incentives and frame himself in such a way that his opponents are incentivized to unwittingly help him. That's the common current with all of this stuff. He knows they can't stop talking about him or they'll lose money. Even though they know what they need to do, they just can't bring themselves to do it. They need the money.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He.s not getting stronger. Hus supporters think they are the only real americans and that everyone else doesn't matter, but a majority of Americans want tobsee him behind bars

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's that one dimensional. Whether he's getting stronger we shall see, but he was underestimated once before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

2016 was a fluke and democrats are too spooked to miss an election, seeing how they haven't had a true defeat since then

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can sell them too, without giving the money to trump campaign then. You take money away from trump supporters and get richer. Win win.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine submitting a CV to a potential employer with a mugshot. Unless you're looking for a job with a criminal organization or trying to be US president it won't fly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends, are the people trying to hire you, dumb as a bag of rocks?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

would the people be smarter if they were dumb as rocks, as a bag or as the combination? i'm afraid to ask

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I need toilet paper with his mugshot printed on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Man, that'd feel weird. Lol I don't want anyone near my butthole.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since Trump did not push the shutter button...Who owns the rights? Is it public domain?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/101
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/105

Public domain, as the photos were taken by a state employee, so no one is getting sued for selling them... not for that reason, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh. I was under the impression that only photos from US federal government were unquestionably under public domain and state/local agencies were a different matter.

Wikipedia seems to take the position that the picture is not in public domain, and there's non-free use disclaimers on the media page.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah Federal low has anything made by the federal government's public domain but that does not automatically apply to the states, and some states do retain copyright over stuff their employees produce, including Georgia apparently. Therefore the copyright is owned by the state of Georgia

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would be hilarious if they took legal action.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Sounds like there's an easy $7m on the table

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Because being a criminal is a selling point for Republicans.

Just wait until they find out that the guy with the four indictments and the mugshot doesn't look as good to the swing voters.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Brian owes Stewie money, but rather than pay the debt back, Brian buys a disguise to hide from Stu.

So trump doesn't have money to pay for the $200k Georgia bond, but he has the money to pay for ~~a mustache~~ marketing this bullshit?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He knows getting a bond is a better story than "billionaire isn't phased by every day felon things" to his base.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Look, the one thing I am genuinely, no kidding surprised about is that he didnt try to sell tickets to see the mugshots taken live, at like 25k a pop.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Credit where credit is due, this is pretty funny.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who are you giving credit to?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Whomever came up with this idea, obviously.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

OH shit, the boss is flashing ya'll! Watch out he's gonna spew fireballs, but we almost got him!