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I honestly do not mind it one but. I quite like the interface. It’s minimal but there are some bugs to it which is to be expected. I really do like the overall design of it though. There isn’t too much going on. It’s like old Reddit which I am a big fan of

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently this is an unpopular opinion, but could the users wanting a 1 for 1 Reddit clone just.....go support one of the 1 for 1 Reddit clones? I'm getting really tired already of everybody signing up for a decentralized system that advertises it's lack of a central authority to escape the site due to the actions of it's central authority then immediately complaining there is no central authority.

I understand the culture shock and have been trying to do my part in explaining that Lemmy and Reddit are not the same system, but I'm already seeing a sense of hostility towards the devs along the lines of "Oh it's not like Reddit fuck that well I guess we'll see if the devs bother listening to ThIeR uSeRs and make it Reddit!" and those people can go fuck themselves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, I think it's deeper than that, in our culture we have this idea nailed into us that without a clear hierarchy, people will go around killing each other and stealing their homes. No one would ever do work, and if you were being murdered on the street no one would care or do anything about it

Most people fundimentally aren't equipped to understand how humans self-govern - but it's how most of the world lived for most of history, and we had worldwide trading networks just based around distributed communities trading with their neighbors

So you try to explain a decentralized network to them, and they hear "distributed". They don't get why people would band together to make servers, and they don't get how it won't immediately collapse into chaos without leadership

It's worth trying to pound the concept into their head until it gets in, because the more people who understand, the more we can improve our society across the board with structures that are more aligned to us by nature

And along with that, like you mentioned there are people who see everything as an enterprise - something that ultimately draws in money or power. They tend to be the entitled, because in their mind "I'm the customer and you need me". They're going to have even more trouble understanding, and I'm more willing to let them go. Even if they're made to understand, people with that worldview tend to see growth as a virtue and sustainablility as a marketing term

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been going back and forth between Lemmy and kBin (?). Can't decide which I prefer at this point. I like that kbin has 'tags' when I post a link. (I post a lot of links in my mod role over on reddit.)

I did most of my fediverse learning curve late last year during the twitter migration, so this was no sweat for me.

So far I miss being able to see a graphic associated with links I post--but maybe that feature will arrive one day... I'm prepared to have plenty of patience and look forward to watching how things improve.

It will be interesting to see if this migration matches the twitter adoption curve: lot's of initial excitement, then a big dropping off of participation (which may be a typical pattern of any online adoption?)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I like that I am not being advertised to. I just hope critical mass of commenters and content makes it to fediverse systems.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dislike how in the app there's no functional inline image/video viewer, at least on my end (unsure if it's not working on my end or its just something everyone lives with).

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm enjoying it more than reddit for the time being for the same reason I enjoyed reddit before it was commercialized. The slight technical barrier to entry is keeping the braindead out for now.

Kind of a catch 22 though, because you need to have some of the idiots to flesh out the population. Time will tell.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm a fan of it so far. It's slower paced at the moment and I feel like I can keep up with a smaller number of communities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The interface is simple and reminds me of old Reddit, which I like. There are some bugs, but that's normal. It's important for people who create communities to actually participate in them. On the mobile version, I wish there was more random stuff in my feed to find new communities easily.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I signed up yesterday. It is close enough to something like old.reddit where I feel comfortable navigating around. I dont know how else to describe it, but it really feels like the site is populated by people creating content organically, and not just a bunch of bots or marketing accounts instigating engagement. Its refreshing that way

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm mostly ok, the only annoying thing is that I like to chose "all instances" especially to discover interesting things, but there's a lot of instances says in Deutsch, Italian, Polish, or whatever, and we cannot block whole instances, only communities, so if there is dozens of communities on an instance, you have to block them one by one

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm strongly, strongly tempted to go on an angry rant about the unusability of the front page jumping around constantly. I'm thinking of donating in order to help out, because I love the idea of a federated forum/news aggregator. Is this a new bug, or something?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm starting to think the splintering caused by instances blocking each other is going to cause users to abandon Lemmy entirely. At the moment instances can suddenly decide to block other instances, and that is going to hurt both users on the instance that put a block into place, as well as users on the blocked instance.

The blocking is awful for an average Lemmy user, because you can get cut off from communities you already subscribed to, without any notification! So you might post and comment without realizing that your content is not getting published, even though you and your local instance still see it.

The user experience would be improved by getting a warning if you try to contribute to a community in this case. And also your subscriptions should show warnings about not working anymore, and those should come up as notifications on the account.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Creating sublemmies hangs forever it seems. I was able to create one on day one of the reckoning, but not anymore.

Also, I thought Lemmy was broken but for whatever reason it performs badly in Firefox but Chrome works okay. I don't like this because I hate Chrome/Google but it isn't clear what the issue is in Firefox. I have NoScript, Ublock, etc. there so likely plugins

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Think I'm still trying to get my head around it all, such as trying to join new communities. Trying to take my time to read through guides and such, but so far it's been good!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand how federation works, and Lemmy's UI seems more or less fine, but I guess I'm still not quite sold on federation in this style being the answer for Reddit-like functionality. It's a bit awkward, and unlike how Twitter's functionality is quite easily mimicked by Mastodon, I'm still kind of skeptical that following subreddit equivalents in that fashion maps quite as cleanly.

I'm not sure how I would do it differently, but I get the sense that there is a better way to have a decentralized Reddit-like experience, and probably one that avoids the risks of the current method (downtime, discoverability, scaling costs for the largest instances, etc).

I'll stick around the fediverse for now, but I really get the sense that it was built for a Twitter or maybe Tumblr like experience, and the Reddit-like experience will always feel a bit short of ideal.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hope there is some way to implement something like streamable/imgur/redgifs on lemmy. I don't mind if it's these services if fediverse alternatives aren't there yet.

They form the backbone of content creation, from Porn to highlight clips of sports subreddits.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once you get a hang of how the fediverse works in general, it's pretty good so far. Using mostly mobile atm, nice and clean, functional pretty similar experience to reddit. Aside from a few features missing like search, I'd imagine there is plenty of room for moderator tools too, and the occasional error codes, I'm loving it so far. No ads, just content, and while it's not the firehose that reddit is/was, if this keeps getting popular, I could forsee just as many communities popping up across instances as there are subreddits.

I'm sure with the influx of users from reddit, especially the more technically savvy mods we're going to see a lot of good tools made for the app and with it being open source, I imagine the devtimes are going to be even quicker than dealing with an ok API.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's some massive UI onboarding issues, but the community here is wayyyy better than reddit imo. Without a framework of understanding, it's hard to figure out what server to join, how subscriptions work across instances, etc. My current understanding is if I like lemmy.world the most, I am just going to search communities from other instances I like and subscribe to it on my profile here. At least, that's what I've been doing.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

All I'm missing right now is sorting (comments at least) by new, top or best etc

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

So far I'm enjoying the mobile interface on the website more than using jerboa. It'd be nice to get more random stuff on my feed while in ALL view, but I'm not sure if it's because of the instance I'm on or just that there's not much activity. It just makes it harder to find new communities if I've got to go hunting for them. Sometimes I like to see things I hadn't previously thought about, it's more fun to get the random stuff like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I joined Reddit seventeen years ago because of Aaron Swartz’s involvement. Lemmy feels more like someplace Swartz would have liked than Reddit ever did.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As an iOS user on safari, where is the damn β€œback” button!? I end up reading then having to return to the main menu and re-scroll down. Is this a lacking feature or am I just an idiot?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I dig it but I wish there was a more compact view option for the web version.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's quiet in here, I know this will take time.

Is there an app I can use in my phone? I am using mastodon at time, but it's harder for discovery purposes.

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