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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well to be fair, the pope survived the attempts against all odds and apparently the popes think the armored vehicle is unnecessary but their security details won't let them go out without it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you also have to consider the risk you put other people in if you’re an easy target. If people that want to kill you think they have a chance they’re more likely to try and things like shooting into crowded areas or detonating explosives are a big risk to innocent bystanders.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Checks name ... are you speaking from experience?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can neither confirm nor deny having faced assassination attempts by the CIA.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But that means more tickets to heaven, so if that's the concern, it's a scam.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well not necessarily. If you follow the logic the time spend on earth is the assessment time, so the place you spend all of eternity is still undetermined. If your live ends to soon, you're robbed of time to proof yourself. But this brings up another quirk in the whole logic. Why should less than a hundred years be enough to determine how you'll spend the rest of eternity? Like, if you have been good enough in the first ridiculously tiny fraction of your existence you're allowed to spend it in eternal bliss, if not, you're cleansed or you spend the rest of your eternal existence in torment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't God have a plan. If he wants you dead then a bullet proof car isn't going to stop that, so why have it at all? And if you died outside of the car then wasn't that his plan? If you only get a tiny fraction then that was gods plan right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That depends on the branch of Christianity. Calvinists belive in a predetermined life, and they also believe in a lot of capitalist shit that's against scripture. Now you can guess what branch is dominating in the USA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Imagine being the vicar of Christ and answering to your security detail

Or needing a security detail

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Given the Christian worldview, it would be a logical idea to have a designated executioner who sends people to heaven at a particular moment when they're deemed to have a pure heart and absolved of all their past sins. The executioner would be sinning, sure, but only for the sake of ensuring as much people as possible get to receive eternal salvation.

However, natural selection is a stronger force than logic when it comes to decide which religions survive, and a religion that accepted this consequence would get wiped out pretty fast.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting Christians should designate one very special guy to place the burden of all of their sins on so that they can confidently attain eternal salvation?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm sure that would work out really well!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

absolved of all their past sins

What do you mean by past sins? I always thought that the abrahamic religions don't believe in reincarnation?

(Fun fact, Spell Check wants to change abrahamic to abracadabra)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Afaik, in Christianity you inherit some kind of sin when you're born.

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