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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm trans. I'll probably be made illegal and have to run for my life to a blue state, or flee the country.

I'm still not voting for genocide. I'd rather literally kill myself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Congratulations, you are.

And you're going to take other trans people with you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The number one killer of queer and trans people has been US foreign policy and its unlimited support for israels genocide. You know brown people can be queer and trans right?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Ah, yes, it's the US' foreign policy that's responsible for Iranian morality police killing brown LGBTQ+ people. It's US foreign policy that's responsible for Russia's hard right turn that's made being gay punishable by prison. It's US foreign policy that's responsible for passing laws that make being gay punishable by death sentences in parts of Africa (okay, that one is directly linked to support from evangelicals in the US, but they're not acting as representatives for the US, and the US in general has been appalled by those laws).

People in Gaza are going to be murdered regardless of which person is elected in the US. OTOH, LGBTQ+ people in the US will continue to have legal protections if Biden gets re-elected, and definitely won't if Trump gets elected.

But really my dude (and I mean that in a gender-neutral way), if you're so sure that it won't matter in the slightest, if you are absolutely convinced by your own righteous cause, go right ahead and vote for Trump, and then tell allllllllll your LGBTQ+ friends that you voted for Trump because Both Sides, and see what happens. Go ahead, do it. Explain to them that they're all chumps and suckers, see just how far that goes with them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People in Gaza are going to be murdered regardless of which person is elected in the US. OTOH, LGBTQ+ people in the US will continue to have legal protections if Biden gets re-elected, and definitely won’t if Trump gets elected.

Unless red states and the Supreme Court decide to take away those protections under Biden's second term. Do you think Biden would stop them?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

SCOTUS blocked Biden's attempts to cancel student loan debt. But he kept working at it, and he's managed to get some of it to go through. I expect that, even if red states and SCOTUS block specific policies that are intended to protect that rights of LGBTQ+ people that Biden will keep working to find a way around them that still follows the law. And, if we can manage to flip the House and retain the Senate, then maybe we can actually get laws passed, rather than only executive actions.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm all for flipping the House and retaining the Senate! I'm voting Dem downticket, so if Trump wins it won't really matter.

But I won't vote for genocide. Maybe next election Dems will fucking listen when I demand they stop supporting genocide.

I really think the blue-no-matter-who's would be better off encouraging this strategy. Biden is toxic. Cut him loose.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you don't vote Biden, then don't be surprised when Trump uses executive orders that accelerate the genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're awfully confident that a Trump presidency means an improvement for Palestinians, can you walk me through that?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

And they kept on voting blue and both parties kept on getting more reactionary and moving the center to the right ad infimum...

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope Biden wins so Israel can continue it's current genocide

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As opposed to trump? Because trump is the only alternative, saying anything different is really sadly naive. Trump already indicated he's willing and happy to commit true and complete genocide, wipe the Palestinians all out soooo.... But Biden isn't pushing back at Israel hard enough, so yeah, we should get trump in the White House. At least Trump will truely destroy Palestine, and then basically the world. He'll stop help to Ukraine so that his daddy Putin can conquer that all and then move on to the Baltic states and soon Poland. Meanwhile he'll install himself as a dictator (his own words, multiple times) so US democracy will also be fucked.

Yeah, sounds like you made the right choice, MAGA MAGA MAGA!

(For those missing it, that last paragraph is one fucking big /s)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It would be best if Biden won because he would help with the evacuation of Palestinians. They lost. Let's face it. They can't fight back against Israel. We should just give the land to Israel and move the Palestinians to the US. Send them to Nevada or something, I hear it's very similar. What Israel is doing is a defensive war and we need to support that. Look how crazy leftist are becoming by being brainwashed by tiktok and other far left platforms. We need to solve the issue sooner rather than later. Move the Palestinians out of Israel and give them reservations like what we did to the Indians. Biden would be open to such ideas and he would ensure their safety. Like it's literally in the bible that the land belongs to the Jews.

Trump would just encourage an escalation of the war to a wider middle east front. We don't need another iraq quagmire.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Any rising fascism inside the US pales in comparison to the actual fascism that is and has been its foreign policy. And that's bipartisan consensus.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey everyone, remember when white leftists were on about how they're the only ones that actually take the threat of fascism in america seriously?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

America is already a fascist country, when it comes to its foreign policy. If you're worried about fascism internally in the future then you should also be worried about "foreign policy" right now, but who cares about being complicit in the war machine as long as you get healthcare right?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not American, but I am fascinated by the cognitive dissonance it takes for these People who claim to be progressive to chart a path that clearly puts Trump in office while claiming they're fighting for the very people that Trump has already banned from being in America.

Trump would be bad for America and for the world, but a part of me wants to see y'all elect him again, just out of curiosity. The stupidity knows no bounds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean I think most of the time the people who are doing that aren't necessarily progressives. They're just people who cared enough to vote before against trump but now just feel like nothing has really happened. Sure things haven't gotten worse but they also haven't really gotten better. So they checkout of politics all together cause what's the point in voting if nothing really changes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Again, I'm not American, but I can't believe that any American could claim that. Nothing has changed from Trump to Biden. It's absolutely obvious there's been a wholesale change in how America is viewed globally. There's been a change in the economy for the better and the American president isn't in the news for saying something foolish everyday.

It's crazy that people would say nothing has changed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Voting for someone who is less bad is harm reduction. You can do harm reduction, while loudly proclaiming that it fucking sucks there’s not a better option, and working to provide better options.

I hate Biden. But I hate (and fear) the prospect of a second trump term more.

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