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"b-but bears are actually dangerous!" Shut the hell up.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (18 children)

I'm a woman (a trans one if that matters to you) and have experienced sexual assault and domestic violence from both men and women.

I know the point that people are trying to make with the whole bear thing.

But I think the friction comes from women talk about this as a theoretical to make a point, where men are thinking more literally.

And I do belive that no one in there right mind, if actually given this option in real life, would pick a bear (unless maybe it was definitely one of the more harmless species).

Each and every one of us, even those of us that have survived SA, have had countless uneventful interactions with men you don't know. Even when it's just one on one. And its mostly normal biases that makes us remember the shitty ones more. And something a lot of people forget is that the vast majority of SA victims already know their assailant, so the idea of a rando assaulting you is even less likely. So yes I would much rather be in the woods with a man, than a wild fucking animal. And if you're a reasonable person, then you would too.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It's nice to change the subjects of racist phrases to get a free dunk on a lot of people that are cool to hate now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

This topic keeps coming up because people keep talking past each other. There is a real, measured, evidence backed problem. The victims are saying “I feel this way, and it causes me to behave this way” and those who are neither victims nor perpetrators are upset about the way they are choosing to express that in a general sense. Now this meme itself is not more helpful than the bear, it didn’t give any new information. But it’s a good expression of that general frustration when no one listens. At least on Lemmy, there is a certain defensive response rather than an understanding empathetic one on this topic. This meme in particular seems harsh, but it’s driven by decades of talking about this, or not being able to talk about this, because the response is always so negative. Everything from “why did you dress that way” to “you should have know before you married them” to “not only women” (yes but that’s the topic at hand so). I would hope that some can come to understand this sentiment. I hope that this community improves.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I see OP noticed how much traction and drama this post stirred up last week so they decided to try it for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (27 children)

I'm a woman and the same way that women feel about men in this whole meme thing, is the exact same way I feel about women...

I don't trust women within a hairs inch of my life and I would rather be with a bear than a Woman but I bet you I'll get super downvoted for this opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I feel like with men it’s usually more physical and with women it’s more social/mental. And physical is way easier to document and make stats out of

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

My wife shares the same opinion. It’s not something she can discuss in her social circles, but she feels like she’s been backstabbed in more awful ways by her fellow women.

When she gets in that pattern, I try to remind her that people tend to suck and you have to be choosy regardless of gender.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Feel however you want, but don't drag me into the what other people have done. I don't deserve the prejudice, and I'd rather just not interact with you.

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