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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ukrainians also get shipped Chinese consumer drones to configure into weapons and Holosuns, so I think it evens out

Telegraph: “One Chinese company sent 1,000 drones to Russia in the two months before the war, according to figures compiled by Molfar Global, an open source research organisation. That firm, Shantou Honghu Plastics, describes itself as a wholesaler of children’s toys on its website and social media profiles.”

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/21/1164977056/a-chinese-drone-for-hobbyists-plays-a-crucial-role-in-the-russia-ukraine-war

"The Ukrainians, and the Russians too, have figured out ways to modify these devices they've purchased online to make more and more creative ways to drop explosives from these small consumer drones,"

Telegraph: “Chinese firms have also sent optical sights to more than 50 Russian companies from the start of 2022 through the first quarter of this year. Imports of these products nearly doubled to $2.5 million last year, compared to the one prior.”

https://news.yahoo.com/budget-optics-becoming-combat-proven-212202739.html (it’s yahoo citing Reddit sources and just doing trust me bro, but if Ukraine bought Chinese drones, buying Holosuns isn’t exactly hard to believe)

More informative source: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/25/holosun-optics-on-ukranian-aks/ (lol, a crowdfunding project funding a country’s military is sad, and the fact they could only upgrade 30 guns is even more sad. In 2014 too during the coup)

However, large numbers of Holosun optics have been fielded during the defense of Ukraine. During the war, they have been seen on AK-style rifles, AR-style rifles and even machine guns. While the battlefield performance of the optics is difficult to verify, Ukrainian troops continue to field them. Even bodyguards for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy have been seen using Holosun optics. Outside of Ukraine, the Estonian Defence Forces use Holosun optics on their LMT R-20 assault rifles.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Probably not for long given the state of the Rouble and the economy. Tech-wise Russia has nothing to offer and when it comes to the stuff China might be interested in, such as ores and oil, well you'd have to not send miners to the front to continue producing them. That Russia of all countries is importing metals should make you stop and think.

Lenin is rotating in his mausoleum.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The funniest part of this comment is the idea that Russia will get so desperate for troops that they'll be unable to operate mines

Soviet industrial capacity greatly increased over the course of WWII

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, but that was the Soviets. These are capitalists. Capitalists suck at war economics and I'm not even sure it's plausible under modern finance capitalism. I agree they're not likely to run out of troops any time soon, but I don't think we're likely to see economic gains like WWII.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tech-wise Russia has nothing to offer

Oh no, their Twitter and Facebook exports are too low. They'll have to scrape by on checks notes one of the world's largest supplies of oil, precious metals, and other natural resources. Surely, the Russian economy will collapse any second now!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Plus their weapon systems are probably looking pretty good after surviving a sustained assault from a NATO trained, led, and supplied army.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

Helicopters, drones, and metals they won't be able to use at Taiwan.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Helicopters, drones, and metals they won't be able to use at Taiwan.

Because their plan for reunification is peaceful, which a military invasion would make more difficult.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Dual-use goods

Such goods are classified as dual-use, meaning they also have civilian purposes, allowing China to skirt international sanctions and claim that it conducts only legal trade with Russia

The "international sanctions" btw:

You can't just unilaterally decree someone can't be traded dual use goods

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

China should declare a policy that they will sell to Russia whatever the US or NATO sells to the separatists on Taiwan Island.

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