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Starting Monday, most California fast-food workers will earn at least $20 an hour — the highest minimum wage across the U.S. restaurant industry. Yet the pay hike is sparking furious debate, with some restaurant owners warning of job losses and higher prices for customers, while labor advocates tout the benefits of higher wages.

The new law, signed by Governor Gavin Newsom last fall, takes effect on April 1, requiring that fast-food chains with at least 60 locations nationwide pay workers at least $20 an hour. The means the state's 553,000 fast-food workers will earn more than the state's $16 minimum wage for all other industries. 

The new baseline wage comes as the fast-food industry is seeing booming earnings, with big chains like McDonald's enjoying strong revenue growth and wider profit margins in recent years. That's partly due to menu prices that have far outpaced inflation, with fast-food costs surging 47% over the past decade, compared with an average of 29% for all other prices, according to a new analysis from the Roosevelt Institute, a nonpartisan think tank.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And the wild thing is that 20$/hr is not enough to live on for most people in most of California

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Idk how anyone besides the wealthy survives in California. Someone sent me a job in my field starting at 150k in San Francisco. On paper, it would be really great money for what I do, but the cost of living would make it a poverty wage. I'm not interested in having 6 roommates at this point in my life.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)

$20 is not even a living wage for a family. And in California, that's basically still a starvation wage. Better than nothing I guess. There should be a law along with this wage increase that prohibits these fuckers from rasing their food prices.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

I feel like the only reason it passed is because it's still not a living wage here. If they pushed for something actually able to afford an individual a life, it would have been shot down.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There should be a law along with this wage increase that prohibits these fuckers from rasing their food prices.

Most of the high cost of living in California is due to very high housing prices. It's not food.

https://www.salary.com/tools/cost-of-living-calculator/los-angeles-ca-expense-details

Energy is also high, but one -- hopefully -- isn't spending as much on energy as housing.

If one wants to reduce the cost of living in California, what one wants to do is reduce barriers to building more housing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YIMBY_movement

The YIMBY movement has been particularly strong in California, a state experiencing a substantial housing shortage crisis. Since 2017, YIMBY groups in California have pressured California state and its localities to pass laws to expedite housing construction, follow their own zoning laws, and reduce the stringency of zoning regulations. YIMBY activists have also been active in helping to enforce state law on housing by bringing law-breaking cities to the attention of authorities.

Things have been slowly moving on this front.

In general, there is stronger local opposition to new housing construction locally than at a high level. Like, people are okay with housing in abstract, but don't want riff-raff moving into the neighborhood, or don't want the nice field near them to be built on or don't want higher-density housing to keep their view of the sky as broad as possible or whatever. So California's had legislative work recently at the state level in disallowing localities from blocking new housing construction. Hopefully, it'll get the rate of construction moving.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Luckily McDs is starting to feel the pinch from people forgoing their crap food for being too expensive. It would seem they're starting to realize that people do have a limit on what they'll spend on their "food"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

In California, near me, the closest McDonalds, Panera's, and Togo's have adopted kiosk-based ordering, which takes the human out of the ordering loop. None are pure kiosk (at least not yet).

The Panera's also had orders dropped off at tables, and appears to have ended that practice; they also removed the numbered buzzers. Now they'll notify a cell phone if a number was entered at the kiosk, and if not, call the name on the receipt from the pickup counter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The cell phone thing is for data collection fyi, buzzers are cheap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I don't want to be in their database so opt to have my name called, but often miss them calling from the pickup counter now. It is definitely obnoxious.

Come to think of it, I wonder if anyone has built a database linking phone numbers to Bluetooth UUIDs? I assume that software on a cell phone can obtain the phone number and the Bluetooth UUID and the full name of the user, so probably free-to-play games and the like will sell it.

And if that's the case, if you correlate with that data, you can identify customers from the Bluetooth UUIDs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I’m sure if the data CAN be collected, it is collected. Then sold, and used to track you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

You're going to see a lot fast food places in CA magically transform into bakeries

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It had taken many years, but finally the Adkins diet fad would be put to rest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Ah, yeah, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Apparently this is misinformation. Panera will have to pay $20 an hour too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That exception only applies to bakeries created before the law was passed - still helps Gavin Newsome's donor without allowing other to take advantage of the political exception.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It's widely reported that Panera does not qualify as a bakery under this law.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

~~Unless your restaurant bakes fresh bread. Get ready for TacoBell’s new Doritos Loco Sourdough Baguette.~~

Apparently this is bullshit. Although I would try dorito bread if someone made it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

If Panera doesn't qualify as a bakery under this law -- which it is widely reported that they don't -- Taco Bell certainly doesn't. This whole meme is likely a right wing misinformation campaign.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://www.epicurious.com/recipes-menus/doritos-seasoning-recipe-article

How to Make Homemade Doritos Seasoning

  • ¼ cup nutritional yeast
  • 1 tsp. chipotle chile powder
  • 1 tsp. garlic powder
  • 1 tsp. onion powder
  • ¾ tsp. Diamond Crystal or ½ tsp. Morton kosher salt
  • ½ tsp. smoked paprika
  • ¼ tsp. MSG

Though if you're making yeast-based bread, the garlic is gonna have to either be put on the bread's outside at the end, or you're gonna have to omit it. Garlic inhibits yeast growth.