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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Could use a colour key in all the negative space in bottom right. Interesting data nevertheless.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's in the upper right, at the top.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Negative space is a good thing. It pushes the eye to what's important.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why the 50k vote requirement? This basically ensures that only blockbuster films and their directors appear in this chart, with a near complete bias towards large American productions.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd guess to make sure the score was averaged across a decent sized pool to minimize outliers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yes, but it does introduce a bias. The Nolan scores illustrate that well. Best not to view this as some objectively the best metric.

It’d be interesting to provide different slices of the voting data to view different biases. Last time I looked at IMDb voting they had demographics too such as age and gender. Along with voting size, it’d be interesting to see different slices and what they like. Older women? Younger women with less than 10,000 votes? Films where older people liked it more than younger and vice versa?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Tarantino only directed one scene in "Sin City" .

Edit: Clint Eastwood only briefly replaced "Dirty Harry"'s director while the latter was sick.

Edit: I'm not used to seeing the Coen brothers as separate directors, but I don't find any conclusive information on whether they directed "The Man Who Wasn't There" together (but they clearly both worked on it)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Higher than 7.5? Luckily you can edit Lemmy titles.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I Always found the rating on IMDB totally misleading. I guess they work for the US public, but many good movies have low rating...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's just random people giving ratings. So the rating is about how large audience likes it, and a lot of movies are not intended for the large masses so in imdb they get a bad rating because the large mass of generic people didn't like it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's not random people, it's people interested in cinema. Filmaffinity has a similar approach, but being more used in Latin countries, it doesn't have that US-taste pervading any review. For instance, "Perfect Days" is scored slightly higher than "Hoppeneimer" and much higher than "The Zone Of Interest", and I really agree with that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you want to know what the public thinks about a movie, go to imdb. If you want to know what film nerds think about a movie, go to letterboxd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I prefer filmaffinity... I'm 90% in line with those ratings

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Interesting, I use imdb to see if some movies with bad reviews are actually still worth watching. Like I don't really care if there's a bunch of plot holes if the movie is actually fun to watch and imdb is usually more forgiving in that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

And not a single woman, if I'm not mistaken! And probably all white except for Miyazaki?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Akira Kurosawa is #18.

But what would you expect? It's a ranking based on IMDB scores. It's got nothing to do with diversity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Hollywood has a long history of primarily funding films made and mostly starring white men, which gives them the resources to make higher quality films with stars that have more practice resulting in a far better chance of putting out a widely known and higher quality product. That isn't saying anything negative about anyone else, just that when you filter out women and minorities from the directing role and give them fewer and less experienced stars and production crews funded at a lower rate, the odds of being high quality and getting attention is far lower.

Also note how many of the listed films are blockbusters, or at least were highly promoted and widely distributed.

There is something to be said about the number of women and minority directors that have highly rated films with far fewer than 50k ratings total, due to both a smaller output and less public recognition. Their exclusion is a sign of the lack of engagement by the audience, probably for the same systemic issues of racism and misogyny.

It is a self reinforcing system, and calling it out is important but certainly isn't a surprise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Akira Kurosawa

Japanese, male.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Denis Villeneuve sky rocketed with dune 2 now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

There were only two names I didn't recognize, but I recognized a few of their movies. A few of the ones I recognized have films that I know about, but haven't watched.

It certainly confirms how much impact a director has on the overall quality of a film.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Laughs in Ingmar Bergman.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Hey my favorite director barely made it in at #30 πŸŽ‰

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This makes me realize that I don’t think I’ve ever seen a single Martin Scorsese film.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

If you only watch one, watch Taxi Driver. It'll make most other films look like community theater. It's dirty, unconventional, expertly crafted and still just as shocking and surprising today as it was almost 50 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Wolf Of Wall Street is the only Scorsese film where I was awake when it ended.