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How does it stack up against traditional package management and others like AUR and Nix?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I installed PyCharm via flatpak. I don’t appreciate that I can’t access vim via the IDE’s terminal, and so far that’s all I really have to say about it. I like that things are sandboxed, and I think maybe this wasn’t the kind of thing I ought to have used flatpak for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I have to agree. I tried some of the JetBrains IDEs from Flathub, and I switched back to the regular JetBrains Toolbox versions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried granting additional permissions via Flatseal?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I didn’t want to containerize every installed app. Switched to Arch and don’t have to worry about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The sandbox can be very cumbersome when there is not a way to break out. I'm thinking specifically of command line tools for developers. You can poke holes in the sandbox to access the filesystem, but the moment you want to run an executable it won't let you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Flathub doesn't accept CLI tools (unlike the Snap store)

Regarding modifying Sandboxes, try Flatseal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Other way around, accessing command line tools. As far as I know, there is no sandbox setting to allow access to execute commands directly on the host system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It can but is cumbersome.

flatpak-spawn —host /bin/gedit

Will run local gedit from a flatpak.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Interesting, thank you. I'm definitely running into trouble for things like shells, but it works okay.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It's alright

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I think Flatpaks are great for applications like Firefox, Steam, etc. where dependencies or delay in package distribution due to building multiple versions can be a problem.

However, there are many situations where Flatpak's sandbox can be more detriment than helpful, if the application wasn't developed with that in mind. It's not a silver bullet for everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I usually prefer not to use them, but they flatpak for Prism Launcher comes with all versions of Java preinstalled which is convenient because I play verious versions of Minecraf, other than that I try to use xbps as much as possible

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I never ever will use a flatpak or snap or whatever "application". I'm using good old .deb package.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I love the idea and the philosophy behind ! I have no trouble with them for now, one click install perfect.

However I’ll never use it for programming and I don’t understand why people use vs code flatpak or other coding app, because the app is contained and cannot interact with your system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] thanks for the resources I did not know. I was pretty confused it was not possible to do it and here you are thx ! :)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I like it, it's good for desktop apps but I LOVEEEEEE nix, if there was a graphical box distro I think it would beat everything else out of the water. Full reproducible builds is not something to sneeze at

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I click install, app launches and I don't need to deal with dependency hell for it. (I like them)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The picture is too big.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I personally think it is trash..

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

They’re great on certain desktops, like Fedora’s Atomic Desktops, but you usually have to work around Flatpak specific issues. On NixOS there doesn’t seem to be a declarative way to install them.

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