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Other philosophy communities have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it. [ x ]

"I thunk it so I dunk it." - Descartes


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[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Like how he's able to be stoic about homelessness existing or whatever, probably, but a woman cheating on him is where life becomes unbearable.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago

"I was down with stoicism when it involved other people being planetarily languished into ash by universal horrors, but if I my masculinity gets harmed I couldn't bear it."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Something something one's own material conditions informing one's politics something something

[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago (1 children)

reddit bro stoicism is all about accepting shitty conditions, and is therefore extremely "cuck"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Look I may be getting fucked in the ass by my insurance company and my boss, but at least my wife is a pure nubile virgin kitten

[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Marcus Aurelius famously wrote "I am not owned" (contemporary histories make note of how he was shrinking into a corncob)

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Marcus Aurelius was an Emperor, which means that he would have had a slew of what were essentially concubines. This would have been expected, and was so unremarkable that nobody would have even thought to comment on it. His enemies would have commented on his wife cheating because it undermines the idea that he is the authority of his house, him sleeping around would have affirmed it.

Even the most wife-guy emperors had mistresses. It was only commented on when the emperor was particularly disliked by the senate historians, they supposedly got particularly weird with it or everything was falling apart while they were around.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

Or in the case of Elagabulus, all three

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago

Guy who is cut up & enraged, BESIDE HIMSELF, about the potential sexual practices of a guy from ~2000 years ago brow

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

man, the creepiest part of this imo is that he casually/instinctively characterizes the aurelius' wife choosing to get down with a gladiator as her being "brutalized".

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This reads like a troll post meant to dig at the insecurities of the kind of people on r/stoic. The word choice there is intentional.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Has to be a bit

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The cuck and the bull kelly

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe Marcus Aurelius was into that shit you don't know Marcus Aurelius bro

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Maybe he calmly sat and chose how to react to his wife getting plowed by fat gladiator hog

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Putting a lot of stock in stories told about a famous guy in a society where they'd routinely make up stories about famous guys, oh and also this shit is 1000 years older than the King Arthur mythos

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Next your going to tell me that Excalibur wasn't a gun blade.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

You’re telling me all those philosophers didn’t debate other dead philosophers that came before them? You’re saying it’s all fake?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Richest men in the world wives leave them all the time.

Most powerful people in the world still stub their toes.

And who would trust a stoic that hadn't truly suffered from love ?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Techbros catching up to Augustine 1700 years after the fact.

Stay losing losers.

That their “wise man” (that is, the wise man as described by them in their amazing idiocy), even if he goes blind, deaf, and dumb, even if enfeebled in limb and tormented with pain, and the victim of every other kind of ill that could be mentioned or imagined, and thus is driven to do himself to death – that such a man would not blush to call that life of his, in the setting of all those ills, a life of happiness! What a life of bliss, that seeks the aid of death to end it! If this is happiness, let him continue in it!

From Augustine City of God XIX.4

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

what an wild ass thought process. who cares if some dude's wife had a boyfriend, the fuck are you talking about man