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Trying to de-google and looking for an alternative to Gmail.

Don't mind if it's a paid service if it's robust.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Other people have mentioned Tutanota; as a user myself I can point out a few pros and cons:

Pro:

  • Extremely privacy focused - everything is encrypted and even they don't have access to your email content.
  • Pretty cheap for a pro subscription (although they recently changed prices and I'm not sure exactly what the new ones are like).
  • Pro subscription you can use custom domains and set up a few aliases.
  • Generally works fine.

Con:

  • Can only use their custom mail clients (in addition to the webmail interface), because they use their own encryption algorithm.
  • Tutanota is so extremely hardcore about security that it seems like a detriment to their user experience. I used to follow the Tutanota community on Reddit and there were so many posts from people who tried to sign up or access their email and were blocked, and they had to go through quite a process to get unblocked. I myself went through a period where I kept being unable to access my account on my phone and it turned out to be that they were blocking me because of "too many IPS connecting to my account from the same IP". I have 2 devices connecting - my PC and my phone, so apparently 2 devices is too dangerous for them. That happened 2 or 3 times for a few days to a week each time, but I haven't experienced it for a while now, though.
  • The user interface is not for everyone. I don't mind it myself, but I've seen a good number of people complain that it's too sparse and/or ugly.
  • Search is annoying - because everything is encrypted, emails can't be searched on the server side so the clients have to do the searching locally which requires building an index. If you happen to clear your storage you have to reindex everything again. It's also pretty slow and annoying to index further back than a few months.
  • You don't get much storage (like, only 1gb or something) and you have to pay to get more.

Overall, if privacy and control over your own email is important to you then Tutanota is a great choice. Just be aware that usability can be kind of a hassle.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

In no particular order: Fastmail, Proton, ~~Outlook~~, ~~iCloud~~, ~~Yahoo~~, Gandi (free if you buy a domain), I've heard Hey is ok, but haven't used it.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Proton mail

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I was doing the same research a few years back Fastmail was recommended to me and Iโ€™ve been very happy with it. It was fairly easy to set up with an email address from my own domain too.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I am happy with Proton.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Check out posteo. It costs โ‚ฌ1/month (you can pay more for extra aliases). Seems like a cool company, and you can use it with your own email apps (Thunderbird, K9, etc).

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Tutanota or Protonmail

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They dont really support normal mail clients so no, no alternative.

I would look on privacyguides.org

posteo.de, mailbox.org and others are also good

And dont forget about cock.li !

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned PurelyMail. Its technically in beta, but I've been using it without issue since the beginning of this year (2023).

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I use fastmail so I can easily use a desktop client and create aliases with bitwarden and it's a great service the only downside is it's not as private as proton mail, but I don't consider email private or secure

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Proton mail!

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

proton mail (if you wanna exclusively use it pay for it), tutanota and any eco focused one. if you wanna keep using some Gmail accounts use k-9

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

proton mail is pretty decent.
not the most private solution but it's still better

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just use IMAP through my domain hosted on Dreamhost (had it for about 13 years now??) and then use K9 and Thunderbird to read it.

Don't need to deal with all the hosting my own mail server spam and ISP nightmare :)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using migadu for almost a year now for mail, tasks, calendars. Works great for me.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Very happy with runbox.com. Hosted in Sweden, reasonable price, and - unlike proton - you can use your own frigging mail client

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