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[Satire] Get A Load Of These Insane Christian Nationalists Who Believed Rights Come From God And Not The Government (babylonbee.com)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Downplaying our current problem of christian nationalism isn't a good look.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would anyone need to downplay a fictional problem?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It isn't fictional.

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/14/1156642544/more-than-half-of-republicans-support-christian-nationalism-according-to-a-new-s

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People seeking honest discussion don't dismiss facts with "lmao".

[+] [email protected] -6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cool. I'm dismissing garbage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then explain why it is garbage.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because it's a heap of activist garbage with biased methodology pushed to create a narrative

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

All you are doing is adding on more adjectives. Support your claim.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've provided just as much actual evidence as you have pal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I provided a source showing acceptance for christian nationalism is on the rise. I offered actual evidence. You haven't done anything othwr than use dismissive pejoratives.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I see you don't know what rise means. You need two data points to show a rise. You provided one.

Further looking at the study to get into the sympathizer category a person had to only agree with half the questions, or strongly agree on one and agree on another. The half of Republicans is a click bate title to rile up the morons. Another summary could say Only 21% of Republicans strongly support Christian nationalism.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And we don’t know how everyone is defining the word. Christian nationalism isn’t a common word

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The study consisted of 5 questions to determine Christian nationalism. Completely agree was weighted a 1, mostly agree 0.6667, mostly disagree 0.3333, completely disagree 0. They labeled respondents an adherent if they scored a 3.75 or higher, symphothizers a 2.5 to 3.75. I wonder how many scoring methods they went through before they got the results they were after.

The U.S. government should declare America a Christian nation.
U.S. laws should be based on Christian values.
If the U.S. moves away from our Christian foundations, we will not have a country anymore.
Being Christian is an important part of being truly American.
God has called Christians to exercise dominion over all areas of American society.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Those are some strange and poorly written questions.

One sounds like a buzzword.

Our laws historically are based on French, Spanish, and English laws, which, for the most part, are based on Christian values. We have calmed it down over the past twenty years, but a good example is blue laws or sodomy laws.

Those just look poorly written to me.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When you read all the questions in the study it becomes clear they were steering to a result to propagandize.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

That is the problem. We are having more things tainted by politics. We can't even do simple polls without trying to force a political answer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Is the assertion that these people are Christian Nationalists the satire? Or that natural law is like a secular divine law? Or what?

I don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The satire is that they were "extremist". Now the error is many of them were not Christians. Thomas Jefferson and Franklin I know were deists. I fall into the atheist/agnostic/deist camp. Deism was fairly prevalent among our founding fathers.

Jefferson even created a bible removing the super natural elements of jesus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Athiest, agnostic, and deist aren't the same. I know you know this. An apologetics tactic is to say they are all the same.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

The point was that they werent christians.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What rights did God give embryos in Alabama again?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

It’s a satire piece. Read it and laugh a bit.

I personally like the inventor of lightening part.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago

LOL.. I like inventor of lightening.