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Hi all I currently have a Honda Civic 2017 (a regular one) but I always wanted a Type R. Looking at used cars market in my country, they are a bit out of my reach at the moment :D Could you recommend any other Japanese cars, that could scratch that itch but not destroy my wallet? Have to be family friendly too as I expect kids :D Cheers

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Hard to say without knowing your budget.

Off the top of my head, check the used market for things in the same new price points.

All these will be in the $30k-$45k new, but used examples should be less. I threw the cheapest autotempest price next to them which probably isn't real.

VW golf/Jetta GTI/gli $14,900 golf R $15,396 Honda Civic SI $14,900 Toyota GR Corolla no used examples I could find Hyundai Elantra N no used examples I could find Tesla model 3 $26,500

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mazda 3 hatchback is kind of similar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nice one - heard a lot of good stuff about Mazda 3

I'm looking for something more sporty performing and more sporty looking though

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

More sporty performing? The modern Mazda 3 is pretty compelling with its driving feel. Car and Driver routinely rates it as one of their favorite vehicles to drive in that segment.
It can also come with a turbo 2.5L with 250 hp and 320 lb-ft. All in a hatch that weighs around 3500 lbs. AWD, too.

I'm sure you could also bring it to a tuner to get even more power out of it. I recently got my car with a naturally aspirated 3.5L tuned, and simply from that and colder plugs, they squeezed out another 20-25 hp and lb-ft over the stock tune in some areas. Peak numbers increased by 14 hp and 19 lb-ft.
A turbo'd engine could go even harder.

But I do concede that I'm not the biggest fan on how it currently looks. It's back end looks too rounded. I also heard visibility is poor with it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Pity they don't pair the 2.5T with a manual......

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Visibility for your blind spot is bad, but I feel like the side mirrors + blind spot monitoring work fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I missed this when you posted but will jump in now.

The best price/performance bet is the car you already own. I would suggest upgrading the wheels/tires first. Remember a regular Civic is designed to haul people/stuff in a relatively comfortable way. The stock tire sizes are selected with this in mind. Performance tires with different size/width ratios will perform better at the expense of comfort. After that you can think about different springs/shocks/roll bars.

Engine upgrades depend on what engine your car came with. As @[email protected] said the turbo provides more options for upgrades.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I had a 10th gen civic and loved it. Had I had more money a handful of years ago, I would have done a few upgrades to it.

If you have the 1.5L turbo engine that came on everything but the base model, you could upgrade the turbo and get a tune. That should put a bit more zip into it.

If you have the base model 2.0L, installing a turbo and all of the supporting mods on an NA vehicle is more expensive, time consuming, and frustrating for a first-timer. However, you could install an E85 kit to squeeze a bit more power out of it. Pair it with a tune and I bet you could get a bit past the 200hp mark.

These could be cheaper options than getting a similar car in a sport trim. However, I understand that modifying your daily driver can seem risky as well. If you're mechanically inclined and feeling adventurous, I would encourage you to take a look at what upgrades can be done to your current car.