the_dunk_tank

Fucking bullshit. I spent a couple of months in Vietnam and the sentiment is the opposite, first off they call it the American war. Words matter and in this case they it’s clear they view it as a war caused and perpetuated by a foreign government and not as a civil war between south and north.

Second is the fact that almost all museums and everyone I talked with is not hiding their disdain for the treatment and warcrimes committed against their family in this war. And their pride in having survived the war as a more unified country, this shows in their sentiment towards the renaming of Saigon to Ho-Chi-Minh City.

Anecdotal of course but I’m really not sure where he met these people, my experience is like I wrote abough, North through South.

Make friends with a corporate executive and have a talk with them about labor laws. I have not met one who does not love the free market and I've spoken with a few. We have no idea what struggling to survive means under this suffocating bureaucracy.

Also underlooked is living somewhere with war is worse than the living in the place that did the bombing and was never touched by its actions.

My friend's Italian grandma loved the Americans and moved to America because her family were poor and had 0 land, and the American troops gave her candy as a kid and weren't the mob or the Catholic church. They gave them vaccines and it was the first time she remembered going to a doctor.

This Vietnamese guy might've just been successful in America and sees he's better off (has more stuff) than his relatives without analyzing why. Or he might be a gusano, idk that much about Vietnam.

Almost all my family and relatives (anti communist or indifferent) will say that, yes, the US has improved our material conditions, but we traded our souls for it. In the US there's no community, no events, can't even operate a store on your property, everything is far, no vacations, too much crime and shootings (perceived or real), education and medicine are absurdly expensive. They likely won't want to go back to living in a home with no modern plumbing and a job that pays a few hundred dollars a month, but I would hardly say their "love" for the US is based on anything other than better pay and anti Chinese sentiment. It's also absurd when I meet people who survived the war (as a civilian), lived in Vietnam in the aftermath, then moved to the US some time later, and they call Joe Biden and the liberals communists.

If they met a Vietnamese person who was a refugee from South Vietnam then neither of them has any idea what struggling to survive in a communist country means.

I very occasionally see people flying the south vietnam flag here. Such concentrated loser energy, really wild to see.

Why were they struggling to survive in Vietnam? Could it be because they had devastating wars forced upon them first to kick out a thieving colonial regime and then to defend against a brutal foreign invader and then afterwards facing sanctions and sabotage? No, it must be because the government did their best to organise the economy in favour of the masses.

Diaspora Asian politics and being cringe, name a more iconic duo.