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Happened to me a few days ago, and I just can't believe how bad this redesign is!!

It's hard to comprehend what goes into the heads of that dev team, but they basically ruined everything nice about the platform. The API changes were pretty much a fatal shot already, but this new redesign seems to be what tipped the scales for me, and hopefully many more.

It's a great time to switch to Lemmy, and I think I'm going to make the effort to stick around and abandon the habit of opening reddit multiple times per day.

Do you think forcing this re-design will bring more people here? I'm hoping for that. Reddit betrayed us and I can't find it me to keep forgiving them for every horrible, anti-user decision.

I noticed in some moderator subreddit, that it is planned to kill new.reddit.com as well. Old will likely stay for longer, but new is what I got used to, and if they take it down I won't bother getting used to the newer, garbage UX.

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

As an ex-redditor, my only reaction is kekw

[–] [email protected] 154 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy users talking to Reddit users.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (18 children)

The hurdle is content. Lemmy has an overflow of politics and mindless memes, but it needs to have more content beyond that to attract people in.

Everyone who wants Lemmy to succeed should give redditors a reason to stay by posting in some of the smaller and more niche communities.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

The Gaming Comunitys on lemmy are also alright.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The redesign was garbage ux from the start and they ignored absolutely all feedback for years. It was fundamentally flawed from the very beginning and they buried their heads in the sand because they knew most people would still use it.

Most people seemed to use the official app anyway, which is even worse, so I don't see many people changing over this. I was one of the people who said when old Reddit was gone so was I, I just didn't expect them to do something worse before that time came.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Won’t change much. Look at OP, complaining about the betrayal and going back several times a day. Old habits are hard to break.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

When RiF broke I never went back, i need lemmy to prosper or I will be out of doomscrolling app

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Honestly I kind of like that lemmy has less content at the moment. When I've seen everything I'm interested in I close it and do something else, rather than doing nothing but scroll.

Though I do miss the long format text stuff a bit.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's not habit, it's that there are many things on Reddit that are not on Lemmy in any meaningful sense yet. I use reddit for those communities that don't exist here and I don't feel like quitting, but Lemmy gets my full attention for everything else.

Using both platforms at once is more about necessity and patience. Lemmy will grow, I'm certain of that, but I'm not going to pretend it's anywhere near active enough yet to fully replace every aspect of reddit. It will, but it isn't there yet.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The API changes were pretty much a fatal shot already

I know people believe what they want to believe but it's very apparent at this point (as expected) that the API changes were not a "fatal shot" for Reddit, nor will this be.

If there's anything Twitter has taught us, it's that there's no amount of abuse the average user won't tolerate once they're locked into your ecosystem.

Some less-applicable examples are abundant: Meta? Wells Fargo? Apple? Google? I mean pretty much every publicly-traded corporation in existence, really.

Consumers have no spine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It's kinda hard to cut out something like reddit 100%. I technically stopped using Reddit, I've only been on Lemmy since RiF was shut down since I'm mainly a mobile user. I logged into my reddit account once and that was to commission an art piece. And that's something I'll probably keep doing because it's been the best experience for commissions.

There's also search inquiries that you can get actual answers to just by typing reddit at the beginning of your search. Like when my TV started having an issue I tried normal search results and forums, absolutely zero help. All the answers were either buy a new TV or call a tech, and the people that dealt with techs said it was minimum $300 for the tech to tell them they had to take the TV for a minimum 2 weeks. So I tried a search by typing Reddit in front and I found a solution within the first two posts. Lead me to a YouTube channel where the guy showed how to fix the issue in 10 minutes with just a piece of tape.

Reddit will keep getting worse, but there will still be useful posts from it's better days. I wouldn't say that it's that consumers have no spine, but rather it's a mix of old habits and sunken cost fallacy. But it will reach a point like Myspace and Facebook did and lose a large amount of users.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So now there's a NewNew Reddit? That IPO is getting ever closer, guess they'll be thrashing around all the harder in the lead up to that to try to show some kind of path to profitability.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Yeh try opening reddit in incognito w/o logging in. It's basically a mobile design, but now for desktop as well. They haven't even implemented Compact mode. It's unreal. Half of it is wasted space, and it looks so green. Baby vomit vibes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Can't even view it because I'm using a VPN.

Which should tell you enough, tbh.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Huh. Kinda looks like the front page of twitter. I hate it. I mean, I don't go to reddit anymore unless I'm forced to Google something and even then I gotta turn off my VPN first, but still. Yuck.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Wait even if you go to old.reddit.com?

Edit: old still seems to be fine

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Old is fine, and the 2nd redesign is currently at new.reddit.com (but it's possible it could be gone at some point).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

"How do we get rid of old reddit?"

"Make a new new reddit, and the make new reddit old reddit."

"Promote this man."

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can see it by going to sh.reddit.com. A lot of people are getting forced to this if they try to use new.reddit.

old.reddit supposedly remains unaffected, so if you use that domain specifically you should be fine. Assuming the Admins aren't lying.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (2 children)

old reddit the only way to use reddit for me. When it's gone I will have to waste my time exclusively here.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The redesign would be bad if considerably improved. Because as it is now, it's simply awful.

Things that they did not get:

  • People might not like a crammed interface, but they certainly don't like to unnecessarily roll stuff.
  • Desktops typically have a horizontal screen. Vertical space is at premium, but horizontal space is cheap. That leads to "stripes" of content, not to square blocks.
  • "Muh consisrency! Mobile n desktop inrurrfaces must look teh same!" leads to either a shitty mobile interface, a shitty desktop interface, or both. Never neither.
  • If you can guess that a user is using a desktop interface (YES YOU CAN, you spam the shit out of the users if they dare to use the mobile interface), then you can also guess that desktop users won't "download your appz XD".
  • Everything else.
[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (20 children)

Reddit is a dogshow but Lenny has issues too.

Maybe it’s my instance or some other config but when I open lennmy it’s just wall to wall communist/anti capitalist, open source wanking and musk hate.

Look, people, musk is a cunt, capitalism is ruining not only the planet but yes also the hearts and minds of people and proprietary software probably should be a little less pervasive than what it is but can we, just for one fucking nano second discuss literally anythingbg else?

In my experience (and again perhaps just with whatever I’ve been able to set up) lemmy is tiresome, parochial and very much a one-dimensional experience.

Can any of us remember when Reddit was actually fun? A little of the silliness that made it endearing? Dumb stories about Kevin, incessant nonsense about bacon, when AMA was a fucking legendary little nook of the internet? Surely some of those are the things this community would want to foster, a little light heartedness? Look at the popularity of the Trekkie stuff, nothing to learn there?

It’s cool though, I don’t have to come here and this has all helped me realise that. I’m literally only on here typing this because I’m taking a dump rn.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All your comments are on gay porn my guy.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Hey, 20 bucks is 20 bucks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I would truly like Lemmy if there were social communities like in reddit instead of what you just described. 2something4you, fantasy, hfy, roleplaying, cats, yurop, etc etc. We need all of that fun stuff

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

All of those things exist here. I feel like you guys haven’t explored other instances maybe because while the parent commenter is right, there is a lot of the topics they’re tired of, there’s plenty of other stuff. And there’s plenty of fantasy, role playing, cats, there are a few 2[blank]4you spots.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Nope. Sorry. Best I can do is 700 Linux communities

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Why is anyone here still using reddit? What's the point of not using reddit anymore if you still use reddit? Whats the point in saying fuck u/spez if you keep using reddit?

I've been exclusively on lemmy since the reddit blackout, and it's been great.

Just give reddit up my dudes. Its shit

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Momentum, there are active niche subreddits that don't really exist on lemmy yet.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Any time Reddit makes a stumble is likely to generate at least a small exodus looking for alternatives. This is an example of such a moment.

In order to keep those users on Lemmy it needs to have activity. A community with no posts or only ancient posts is not attractive. Yes, Lemmy has politics and memes, but it needs more activity in other types of communities. People say as much constantly and it is obvious.

If you want Lemmy to thrive then I highly suggest you post in communities relevant to your interests.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

"Forced" is a really weird way to describe it. Companies redesign their physical and virtual spaces all the time and people [edit: usually] don't react like it's an act of violence.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Funny thing is, they do. Our company's app is in the middle of redesign. Previously the "design" was made by programmers just making it work and not really caring that much about visuals. Now there's actual vision and concept behind the new design and yet we've already got some complaints. People always treat redesigns like a personal insult.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

In most situations, ‘vision and concept’ just add bloat and additional clicks required to complete the same tasks as the previous, spartan/utilitarian design did.

A good example of what I’m referring to is the Metro UI of Windows 8; yes it arguably looked ‘prettier’ - but that’s largely subjective and made actually using the device worse, without 3rd party applications to restore the Windows 7 Start Menu functionality.

Sometimes, albeit not always - programmers do end up making pretty efficient UIs.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Wait, there's a newer redisgn than new?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if I'm the only one who feels this way, but the new design makes it look more like a social media site than a forum.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm sure we'll start seeing stories/reels/shorts making a comeback as well, they just want to make it a copy of other social platforms indeed. Their brainrot knows only one thing - copy trends that make money. They had no clue what to do with reddit, and it's apparent in every decision they've made. RIP Aaron Swartz. He had such a different vision. Reddit team needs to be disbanded. It looks like that's the plan anyhow. Sell reddit and fuck everything off to whoever comes next.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

The Old Reddit Redirect addon for Firefox still works.

The day that breaks, is the day when I finally come to the realization that I will have to find someplace else for niche content that isn't available here. I'm not so sure that such a website exists. Reddit killed off all the competition.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Wow what a horrible day to have eyes

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

They redesigned the site again? old.reddit.com was literally the only usable design. No avatars, no ridiculous amounts of padding, no broken search results, no forced sign-in for NSFW-marked content.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

..: there’s a redesign? I’m still using old Reddit. New Reddit was always shit.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Many won't leave no matter what happens.

Some have left already.

Everyone else is somewhere in-between.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Based on the stats of a sub I have access to, old Reddit has been on a slow decline for a long time and just isn’t that significant of a % of people.

So no, I seriously doubt this will have an impact.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Counterpoint: the moderation teams for the bulk of the most popular subs have flat out said that they cannot do their jobs without old.reddit, and the Admins (for what its worth) seem to have acknowledged that. I think old.reddit may get perpetually frozen with no new features added, but removing it outright seems unlikely.

Of course, them just closing their API entirely seemed unlikely too, so....

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

What was keeping you there?

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