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Me as a parent (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Actually, the conversation would go like this.

Kid: Dad, someone on the internet said Jesus dies for our sins.

Dad: What do you think of that?

Kid: I'm not sure but it's weird. How can someone dying have anything to do with the bad things that other people do?

Dad: It only makes sense if you understand that back then, they used to kill animals as a sacrifice to God. They believed that God will show them more favor, the larger the sacrifice. If you do something God doesn't like, killing something will make God happy with you again.

Kid: This is getting more bizarre, and creapy.

Dad: So, Christians believe that Jesus was sacrificed to forgive all humans for all the bad things they do so God will be happy with them again.

Kid: O...K... So, we're all forgiven for everything we do.

Dad: Not exactly. You have to feel bad about it and ask Jesus to forgive you. If you're Catholic, you have to go through a priest.

Kid: David cries when he has to go talk to the his priest.

Dad: Yeah, that's a different topic, but that's what they believe.

Kid: Why does God want them to kill things?

Dad: It seems that he changed his mind. Somehow, since killing his "son" was such a big deal, that he's happy with us without further killing.

Kid: Is God supposed to be smart?

Dad: They believe that he knows everything and makes everything happen.

Kid: Isn't he suppose to help good people and punish bad people?

Dad: We'll get there later, your question was about sacrifice. Have you heard of communion?

Kid: Isn't that when they drink juice and eat a cookie.

Dad: That's right. The cookie is supposed to be the body of Jesus, and the juice is supposed to be his blood.

Kid: Seriously?!

Dad: Yes. It's symbolic cannibalism. According to the bible, Jesus told them to do it.

Kid: Like half the kids as school and all of their families do that!

Dad: Yup. Pretty weird.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

"yeah, that's a different topic"... Damn lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Right... I don't know if this comic is supposed to be satire but most atheist parents don't raise their children like that.

Edit: my original comment said "comment" when I meant "comic," dramatically changing the meaning. Oops.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's pretty much how it went down with my kids. I imagine most parents just avoid it, but I teach them full on how crazy that shit is. And make sure they know not to confront them about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right, I'm saying the comic strip is not how atheist parents generally are. We usually talk to them not ground them from technology. That's what a lot of us experienced with our religious upbringings.

Edit: oh my original reply I said comment when I meant comic. Oops.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean from a historic point of view some things make more sense. However what people think now what that means in todays society is just completely out of the loop

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The internet will 100% teach your kids theism, just teach them critical thinking first.

Source : my granddaughter gets religious tiktoks constantly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

TikTok is very bad!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the meaning of this comic? I have no idea. It is very obtuse.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is a twist on the usual - religious parents restrict access to things that question their worldview. The author of this comic is saying that if their child was exposed to someone espousing religious views, they will restrict their child's exposure to such content to avoid indoctrination to religion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the explanation, which confirms to me that this comic is overreaching to make a point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So why does the parent disappear?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

ik this is a shitpost but that's like the worst possible way to handle that situation

i'm like a third-generation none, my parents were both raised secular and their marriage was officiated by a guy from the a.h.a., but i had some christian classmates in like kindergarten or first grade (public school in california) and i sorta half remember asking my mom some question about something i'd heard them say at some point or another, and what she did was she explained to me (in 5yo detail, anyway) what christianity even was, which i didn't really understand at that point, and that was enough to make it clear to me how silly it all was.

one of the easiest ways to figure out who to trust, imo, is looking for who can most accurately and fairly describe what their opponents' argument is. trying to hide it away from a kid who's looking for answers is just going to make it more intriguing. going over it in detail makes it clear what the problems are.

e: damn, who'd i piss off

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you described is called Steelmanning. It is the opposite of strawmanning.

The idea is to concisely repeat your opponents argument with the most charitable interpretation to see if they disagree with anything, for the purposes of ironing out any misconceptions.

People who cannot steelman are either ignorant, or malicious.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

agreed. that's why i'm saying it's so important to use it when teaching kids about religion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jeez, this sub has not been fair to you :/

I agree with you. It is important to try to fairly represent the opinions of others. Because once you do, then you can fairly tell them why you believe they're wrong.

Giving them reasons to doubt God based on flawed assumptions will teach them poor epistemology.

"I don't believe in God because I've never seen him" is not a good reason to believe God isn't real. There are legitimately good reasons, children must hear them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Most of it were the same guy with multiple accounts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Looks like you pissed off someone with bots based on people who disliked you.

There are two of the same usernames multiple times, one of them 6 times, one of them 7 times. Some of them on my instance as well, I have banned them now.

Edit: And this is not the first instance of it, that user including its other accounts has so far downvoted you over 350 times in total. That's some dedication.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's happening to others also, mass downvoting as though it matters. They're trying to use the reddit method where it doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's what i figured as well. all i've been doing is posting about how cops are bad, bikes are good, and i like funk music. real fuckyouinparticular vibes, huh?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I may send you the list of the accounts if you wish, so you can block them but I'm afraid it won't help that much, because creating accounts doesn't take much effort.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I was raised Christian and took all the stories at face value and true. I think I was about 7 or so when I watch a movie I think was called The Bible. For some reason, seeing the stuff on video allowed me to see how ridiculous it was. After that, I still went to church, but I was looking at it from the outside.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I worked hard for those sins! Give them back!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, do you think it was easy to organize that office bukkake gang-bang? I worked HARD to make it happen. I want my sin points for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cringe and bait, this is Christian ego fiction.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see it as making fun of the religious people who do this when their kids question God from something they read in the Internet. Like a uno reversal on crazy parent responses.