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Better than being out in the middle of an industrial area.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

With the cost of rent in malls I would say they will not likely make a comeback.

Industrial rent is far cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's really depressing how malls were built for unsustainable 80s-style commerce and the holding companies basically squeeze them dry instead of trying to reinvigorate them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I've seen some attempts, either by leaning hard into entertainment or building high density residential.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Additionally, with the rise in abandoned malls and decline in mall cop patrols, are we heading toward a double-whammy in the form of booming mall rat and mall ninja populations?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not until someone fills the mall turtle niche.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Be the change you want to see in the world.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

I had never even thought about this but it is more common than not to find dojos and dance studios in the industrial sections of cities.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Malls are cool. Dojos are cool. What's the problem?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Malls are cool again?

It's that some ironic retro coolness?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m out of the loop personally but it wouldn’t surprise me given how many things we’ve seen make unexpected comebacks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I lived through the first time they were cool, and now they're getting cool again as people realize buying everything from Amazon sucks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yup. Sitting at home and just accumulating stuff without going out gets boring

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Could this possibly lead to Amazon Storefronts? They definitely sell enough stuff to fill a mall

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

From b&m to online and back. The cycle of life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Malls have never been out of style at least in Asia’s megacities. The malls in US are just terrible that’s why they died out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They overbuilt. Outdoor malls aka "Villages" are the trend now and are doing well around my area.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I adamantly believe that the American mall died because Orange Julius went out of business. Like what's the point of even going to a mall if you can't get an Orange Julius to go with your Hot Dog on a Stick and Auntie Anne pretzel?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Partnered with Dairy Queen in Canada, I still get one every time I go to the mall.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Follow up stupid question, but what's a mall dojo?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Guessing, but just what it sounds like - a martial arts training gym. Generally, they are low revenue businesses, relegated to subleasing from other athletic gyms (like gynmastics facilities), out of community recreation centers, or in industrial warehouse areas. Sometimes you'll find them in strip malls, as well.

Theoretically, vacancies put pressure on mall owners to lower rents, perhaps to an affordable level for these dojos. Lowering rent also makes the mall less valuable than a vacancy. And owners don't like lowering value if they can afford it, because they can leverage existing values.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A Dojo is where you learn Karate. A mall dojo is a dojo in a mall.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Where you learn mall karate