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That’s a recent quote from Reddit’s VP of community, Laura Nestler. Here’s more of it: This week, Reddit has been telling protesting moderators that if they keep their communities private, the company will take action against them. Any actions could happen as soon as this afternoon.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Reddit will die off in stages. Slowly.

First the power users are leaving now. These are the mods and the major content creators (think Minecraft leaving)

Eventually they will piss people off again and the more common content creators will leave.

Then after reddit has worse and worse content, the users who just comment will leave.

After that there will be nothing worthwhile for the lurkers and they will leave too.

Reddit will then be a wasteland.

This will all take quite a while. Even Digg took time to die off.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think the growth of Lemmy over the last few weeks is a clear indicator that Reddit is in decline. I have deleted Apollo and my reddit bookmark and have only gone back when a Google search provided the information I needed. I won't be going back and I think a lot of people are of the same mind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for me, one of my favorite uses for reddit has been live game threads for various sports and that really only works with a larger user base. For instance, I follow the Seattle Mariners and I have found two different Lemmy instances for them. The one with the most subscribers (44) hasn't had a game thread posted in 13 days despite the Mariners having played like 10 games in that stretch. The other one has 9 subscribers, although it looks like someone has set up a bot to automatically post a game thread and a post-game thread; however, every single one I looked at has 0 comments.

I'm not gonna be able to pull the plug on reddit entirely until Lemmy gets a serious increase in users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hi! I'm an admin of fanaticus.social. I'd like to apologize for the game bots disappearance. It's back now! I made pinned a post about it, which you can read here.

We're working hard to iron out the kinks in the game bots but I apologize for the inconvenience. I was on vacation last week and because of a bug, the choice was between keeping the fanaticus servers up or putting the bots to sleep.

The live game threads were some of my favorite parts of Reddit too. I can't do anything about the small user base but porting the game bots over to lemmy and posting content is the best way I could think of to start attracting users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

After being a Lemmy lurker for a few weeks, I submitted a request for an account on an instance that manually approves accounts earlier this week. Just checked and confirmed that my account was approved. This was based on calls for engagement to help grow the community. While I've been here for a bit, here's my first participation. Ayo!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'll never understand the people who are hell bent on trying to get reddit back. No matter what they won't have a say in anything that happens, own anything, or even have a voice. I'm glad people are finally moving to an open source alternative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love how their CEO believes - is absolutely convinced - that launching a crusade against his product's users and mods to be a winning strategy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I don't think he knows what he's doing.. in his mind he's running the last meter of the finish line to the IPO when all these "problems" are cropping up for "no reason" and he just wants to finish the race

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sad thing is that the masses that are still on Reddit at this point dgaf and will likely stay on Reddit forever. There's a real problem of Apathy in today's culture when people are just jonesing for their fix of daily content/memes, or at the very least nothing that disrupts the status quo. They don't give a fuck about "ideals" or what corporations do or farm from them so long as their instant gratification and daily intake of said content remains unchanged.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit will REALLY be good when those apathetic users are all that's left to produce content and moderate subs! /s

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Let's be honest, reddit had already gentrified itself internally into subs that either

A) act like mob rule is cool

or

B) so libertarian it hurts

The B users can't stand A and the A users can't stand B, sadly, the A users are the ones who only care about "content" and don't care about much else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's like they forgot what happened to Digg. They have forgotten the face of their father.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're just looking for that sweet IPO cash grab.

Unfortunately for Spez and the rest of Reddit, they're too late to actually cash in on their 18 year-old startup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Makes me wonder if that's what Digg was doing...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man i really hope Reddit dies and people move onto decentralized networks, in time I'm sure we can figure out how to index a decentralized network for search engines completely replacing Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's easy to index decentralized networks is literally Google. Every website is decentralized from every other website the fact that Lemmy/kbin/Masterson sites can communicate with each of the doesn't really make any difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wonder if search engines will see content duplicated across multiple instances and derank them thinking it’s SEO spam. Or maybe I’m overthinking since google is already full of SEO spam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can use Lemmy Explorer to search through all 900 or so Instances for the communities you're interested in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As soon as the threat was made all the mods should have quit. An unmoderated reddit would collapse in hours. It would have been glorious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is true. I suspect for many mods the power they have to push their ideas, ideals and beliefs and punish who they see fit more than makes up or the fact that they do it for free.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want to be incendiary, but aren't they just getting new mods? Are the new people going to show up and wreck the place for fun?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its not just replacing mods though. Take the issue that happened with that snack sharing subreddit. The current mods held it for 10+ years. They built several tools that automated verification and rating people who shared with each other and it prevents a LOT of drama and scams. Then reddit replaced them because of the protest. But what about the automated tools that they personally made for "their" sub. The owner of those tools took them down. The new mod put them back up. They will die on the 30th anyways because they wont make the API requirements and if they are forced to stay up byt he new mods then the person who will have to pay reddit for the API usage is no longer the mod there.

This is not a unique situation either. Tons of people made auto moderation bots and tool over the past 16+ years. Most of those tools break today and if the mods are replaced then those tools are stolen from the owners. If the owners remove the tools reddit sees that as protesting and removes the mods.

It's going to be a train wreck and a legal nightmare.

Even in a perfect world you are replacing mods that know the communities and have created them and worked on them for years with a new set of mods with no attachment or experience running those communities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kinda sad but platforms come and go.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only thing that makes me sad is we cannot take the years of knowledge stored in reddit with us. Some of those co tributors who posted valuable contributions are not active anymor or some has quietly passed away irl.

If reddit decides to wall their site, unviewable to non paid subscribers, then it will be like an end of a small scale civilization where poeple go back to basic living,

I hope in time we can rebuild the same kind of knowledge here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good news. According to lemmy explorer, there are "Ask Historians" communities on 3 different Instances. (the one on "lemmygrad.ml" has the most subscribers right now but it's only 403.)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Maybe pass on the lemmygrad.ml anything...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they’re that important then pay them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the comments on the Verge article, that I agree with:

There's nothing wrong with the mods being volunteers. Reddit just needs to respect them (and the other users) more. In fact if the mods were paid employees there'd just be even less standing in the way of these administration deuchebag moves. And I think that if they were paid hires there'd be less assurance that the mods were truly interested in the subject matter of their subs - I'm just hypothesizing there. Anyway I don't think the volunteer model wasn't working. It's the admin layer outside the mods that's broken.