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Why YSK: These email tips are helpful for people who struggle with boundaries and want to communicate more assertively.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some of these come across dickish

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's really interesting how different people find these dickish or awesome. I wonder if it depends on the context and the source of the email?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It is pretty funny that the assertive ones that are clear are the ones I have been told are too aggressive and that everything should be passive so the recipient doesn't feel pressured. If course the people that told me that were passive aggressive and always caused drama while all the assertive people got along fine and were clear about each other's opinions and came to compromises.

I think people's take on them also comes from past negative experiences.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Corpo bullshit. Silverhand wouldn't approve

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I can tell why this is from adhddd.com, it's all about assertiveness. People with ADHD in general (including myself, to an extent) have trouble with being assertive, so most of the phrases in this chart try to change a meek or mild-mannered response to a more assertive one. I think part of the struggle of life is finding balance because while some of these are generally improvements, others are generally worse, and the difference will depend on the tone you're going for and the person that you're sending the email.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Improving my work emails is 99% of what I use ChatGPT for.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While most of these are a good rule of thumb, I disagree with 'Always Happy to Help.' > 'No Problem.'

'I'm Always Happy to Help' is a fine response, if you're actually willing to make your time available for the recipient at the drop of a hat. Sometimes that's called for, but I would only reserve it for a few very specific circumstances. I also don't see an issue with saying 'no problem' most of the time. There are situations where something a little more formal is called for, but 90% of the time 'no problem' should work imho.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have very mixed feelings about this. I feel personally attacked, but also might reference this moving forward

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Always happy to help!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I attach a goatse to my email communicationsz tonrrally drive home the point of urgency in the face of devastating consequences.

Follow me for more productivity tips.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Some of these are great and I will definitely steal a few. I especially appreciate these as a non-native speaker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Saying It’d be easier to discuss in person comes off as “I can’t legally put this in writing because it’s against your contract” and not “this is hard to word/explain.” Lol. This is straight PR shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate people doing that. It means that they can’t be bothered to think about their problem and what it actually is that they want from me.

If you can’t put it in words, you can’t put it in words. Changing the medium from mail to sound won’t help. Thinking will.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that's not necessarily what it means. some things legitimately are easier to explain in person. ever try working out a complicated mathematical argument in an email? one can do it, but it's not pretty. in person you can write on paper, draw figures, etc., synchronously with your compatriot observing and even participating. it's not merely a change of medium from text to sound.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Depends on who says it and whether they document it after. I do meet up to discuss when I have a lot of questions that will likely lead to questions, but I summarize it in a reply to the email so it is in writing.

A past jerk of a boss used the same phrase to mean what you said, but since he didn't put anything in writing none of the rants he called discussions mattered as he couldn't use them against me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This was created by a comic creator with ADHD. A lot of these are helpful for people with loose time boundaries.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some of these are good, because getting into the habit of thanking people for helping (“thanks for catching that!”) fosters good working relationships or providing specifics that, presumably, work for you, too (“can you do [x] times?”) is a better starting point than being truly open ended.

But I well and truly despise the “thanks for your patience/when can I expect” because we ALL know what you mean and I respect someone far more if they acknowledge, explain, and move on from their errors than just…reword shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like how this post started a lot of good discussions on what people like and dislike in email communication. Really lively in here.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never open email. Work is so much easier.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was hoping for something else when I saw the title.

But, now that I am here:

I will soon start a new job, where the number of emails will be much larger than it is now. Any recommendations for sorting these ‘like a boss’?

I am using Mac mail, but can change to outlook if there are some good reasons - and stuff Mac mail can’t do (mail wise).

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