Oh my god I forgot voat existed. Isn't that a far right hell hole now?
this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2023
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It's gone now, thankfully but yes it turned into an alt right paradise before it went kaputt.
This is just the start of Reddit's board going for the big money. It's at odds with a volunteer modded site and volunteer created content. Mods aren't going to be happy to do unpaid work just so the CEO can get rich. This API stuff is just the first exposure of this conflict. As more mods wonder why they are doing this for free just so what's his name gets rich, more will abandon Reddit and come to Lemmy.
In the past, Reddit alternatives pretty much existed only for the least savory people (i.e. nazis)
Now Reddit has caused an exodus of good users, a bit different.
Moves towards Voat were primarily sparked by the banning of various conspiracy and negatively oriented subreddits (e.g. fatpeoplehate). This association meant people assumed the Voat community was all made up of people from such communities, which in turn meant the site only really appealed to a small subset of the Reddit userbase.
This time around Reddit has annoyed a broader section of the userbase and the move is not associated strongly with any particular group or ideology so I think alternative sites now have a better chance of building a community that will attract others in the long term.
Lemmy's FOSS and federated nature are its biggest advantages.
holy shit i remember voat.
I still don't know what kbin is.
Honestly though Lemmy needs a rename. The musical artist is significantly more popular and it screws up searches.
Lemmy Kravitz?
No, Lemmy Hendrix.
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Voat did a couple of things wrong, first they Atko attempted to attract people to his site during the Pao thing, people were looking for an alternative and Atko presented his site as faster as it's written in C#, and has things to prevent powermods by having mod limits and brigading by having minimum points to comment.
What that means is that the normal people who went there to like things are turned off by the lack of content and went back to reddit, so the only one who stayed are the ones who are there to not like things(to put it lightly), and they get louder because they posted more about the things they not like, and since there is a barrier to entry, they just got more and more people who were there to not like things and pushed out all the original nice communities that were on voat, which turned the site into only a place for people to not like things.
So as long as we have people who like things and tell the people who are here to solely not like things to leave, it should be fine.
The people who left reddit for voat where those whose subreddits were banned, such as farpeoplehate and shit. Niche communities.
With lemmy the migration is from a much wider number of communities.
I think due to the decentralised and open source nature, it‘s much better and even if some instances die the project persists. I‘m in IT and it looks like a solid project which has me excited and thinking about how I could contribute. My feelings coming here were also hope for better and a freedom from corporations.
Voat was just another corporation out to make money off hate I guess.
Well for one Lemmy is open source and federated. It's not one site, so even if the developers get tired of fooling with it, the servers don't depend on them and other people could take over development without express permission from the original developers.