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President Joe Biden goes into next year's election with a vexing challenge: Just as the U.S. economy is getting stronger, people are still feeling horrible about it.

Pollsters and economists say there has never been as wide a gap between the underlying health of the economy and public perception. The divergence could be a decisive factor in whether the Democrat secures a second term next year. Republicans are seizing on the dissatisfaction to skewer Biden, while the White House is finding less success as it tries to highlight economic progress.

“Things are getting better and people think things are going to get worse — and that’s the most dangerous piece of this," said Democratic pollster Celinda Lake, who has worked with Biden. Lake said voters no longer want to just see inflation rates fall — rather, they want an outright decline in prices, something that last happened on a large scale during the Great Depression.

“Honestly, I’m kind of mystified by it,” she said.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Gr. Have to admit, it's kinda annoying when people are still mystified these days. I could understand being mystified 5 years ago, but today, you should have too much evidence.

It's the information space, of course, and how its being utilized to try to rip the west apart. You think being within that process is going to feel stable, normal and predictable? No, no probably not.

Mystifying my ass. Only way it's mystifying is if you believe all conspiracies are fake. Which is just as dumb as thinking all of them are real. Countries absolutely plot against each other though, this is an extremely real and common form of conspiracy throughout history. Look as Kissingers legacy. We engaged in plenty of global conspiracies ourselves, throwing out this or that dictator, training militants here and over there. Do people think "that could never happen here?" or something? Even knowing how dumb Americans can be sometimes? And how about companies, driving these things for profit?

Terrified, infuriated, completely demotivated. Fine, I can understand all those. But mystified just makes me want to slap you. This is not mysterious at all, it's intentional manipulation with propaganda that is achieving sound results. Is she not seeing the propaganda or something, do I have to email her some examples so she understands?

Then there's another piece to the puzzle where many Americans just don't realize inflation represents year-on-year change, and instead view it as total change over time. That's honestly the smaller piece of the puzzle imo, though, Americans are often a little dumb on the details. Fucking annoying though, that I can see this and I'm just a dumb motherfucker on the internet, not a professional pollster.

/rant

Sorry, that one really bugs me, huge pet peeve. I think something has to be wrong with you at this point, if you can't understand why Trump gets the votes he does all through America, and how that relates to things as small as people misunderstanding inflation. Or misunderstanding race... or gender... or economics... or science... or facts... or the media... or education... or the federal govt... or the first amendment... or the civil war... or ... I could go for a long fucking time.

Anyone in here mystified? I figure people around here probably know better, since Fediverse kinda is an information space project in itself.

edit: Thinking about this further, this is probably fueling things like anti-semitism and Q too. Anyone can notice that there's large amounts of disagreement on the things I listed a couple paragraphs up.

In looking for a potential source for the problem, it's easy to stumble on the idea of some shadowy cabal running the world and driving these things. This solution is simple, and it feels good. It's kinda sexy, in a fantastical way. Whereas the much more mundane possibilities are ugly and complicated, and would not make for a fun story at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (19 children)

Yeah what if it's not that she or anyone is confused. What you seeing here is propaganda, plain and simple. The reader is supposed to come away with the belief that the economy is good and that therefore things are good, and that any perception they have otherwise is wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

if the economy is so great why am i taking a shit outside in the tenderloin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it's not getting stronger. It's crumbling before our eyes and they're just blatantly lying about it to save face.

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