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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think removing protonmail is the correct solution.

This is a list of email providers that facilitate temporary email addresses. So adding outlook and Apple to that list makea more sense to me?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But inclusion of Proton domains makes many Proton users to be unable to register on websites. It is only helping google to keep monopoly and it is simply privacy harming

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do you know this?

Besides that, this is just a list providing burner email addresses. Adding Outlook to this list makes sense. If sites are using this list as a blocklist that would cause issues, forcing them to not use this as blocklist anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If I read correctly, in a PR someone makes an argument that Proton and Tuta are newer services that advertise privacy and anonymity as opposed to more well established services like Outlook or Apple mail that do end up linking mail to an identity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The list that the repo maintains is for services that can provide burner or anonymous emails.

You can sign up for Proton Mail anonymously, as demonstrated by a frequent contributor to that repo in issue #414.

Therefore, it seems appropriate for it to be on that list, as annoying as that is.

I'd hope that site providers wouldn't just summarily ban any domains on that list but I understand why they may take that shortcut to reduce spam/abuse if they don't have adequate resources to handle it other ways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You can sign up on Outlook anonymously too. Look video in this comment

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that's why I proposed to add Outlook to the list too?

Mozilla provides a similar service I believe?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes. Aliases is not disposable mails. Moreover SimpleLogin (Proton aliasing service) forbids to use it as disposable in ToS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That video doesn't seem to have actually fully completed the registration process at Outlook though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You can try by yourself (without “grey” ip)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I have a bad feeling that's what a lot of site providers will do, and you can almost guarantee the big tech data brokers will push them to do so, especially Google/Gmail. They will own our lives, by force if necessary.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Leave Proton alone ffs, without them I would have my Internet seriously limited by default by UK isps and the moronic Government that just wants everything to be it's own propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

That’s why I posted this. I hope we will find a way to unblock Proton

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Blocking disposable emails is like fighting a hydra, they will always outplay a black list. This just hurts the legitimate users not on a popular provider.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't get the point of all these disposable email filters. It's not hard to buy a new domain and set up a wildcard email server.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Moreover you can use this website (it generates temporary working Gmail addresses) or this website where is new domain name every day

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the repo owner declined the request, that's pretty much the end of it. They own it, they can do what they want.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

He thinks that it is because of anonymous registration. But Outlook provides it too…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Why does anyone care? This library has no public dependants, and low double-digit weekly downloads. Nobody's using that crappy library in the first place because the idea as a whole is incredibly dumb and futile.

This is for 0.1x engineers that can't figure out a captcha on their side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately, I contacted support of some local websites, and they said that they wouldn’t white list any domains and I need to contact this list owner

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

This is the second time this month some overzealous moron decided to add these because they can be used for burner accounts, as if other services cannot. People like this are why we as a species haven’t advanced more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I also have the same problem, hope to find the best solution!