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So I was watching a few youtubes and remembered how the vast majority (of like the ten) nes games me and my sister had were hard as all hell. I loved to play Little Nemo and Street Fighter 2010 but I am pretty sure I never made it past the third level of either. Let alone infamously hard games like The Lion King.

Which got me thinking. Basically every game for the past 20 years has been designed around instant gratification and being accessible. We outright had to make a new concept "hard but fair" to account for games like Dark Souls that are designed to be difficult but beatable as opposed to putting you in a death spiral if you hesitate too long on a hard jump (hello Ninja Gaiden).

So do the younger folk even have a concept of a "favorite game" where you likely never experienced more than fifteen minutes worth of content?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not very good at Diablo 4, I mainly picked it up thinking it would have a sort of MMO thing and expected something not too different to a grindy time waster.
I mainly play other genres, and the last Diablo game I played was D2, when I was a teenager (mid-30s now), which I didn't even get far into.

I just started Act 6, which I believe is the last, most recently. Where I skip cut scenes in other games I'm really enjoying the story of this, and so I'm finding myself watching them all the way through. The voice acting is great and I've never actually felt properly bored.

I'm not bad, but not what I see as the average player of this sort of thing (so not very good either), yet I enjoy it a fair bit! Veeeery dark story, and the cut scenes are incredibly gory sometimes. I think that's really cool from an artistic standpoint, I kind of get why people like deep horror films so much: there's just so much cool stuff artists can do with dark themes, and the artists in Diablo 4 really go ham with this! Lilith has like a freakin' head of horn clusters, like they said "fuck two horns, just keep adding them!" But they made her character REALLY cool looking by doing so. I love it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't played it, but I remember watching the opening cinematic where Lilith gets summoned. I love her aesthetic as a demon queen, with the skin wings and all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh same. That intro is what drew me in. Reminds me of when I used to sketch all sorts of demonic beings for fun. But not just the appearance, for me the entire cut scene elements impressed me. From the design to the voice acting and general demeanor of the characters. The emotional depth within each role is rather well accomplished, I would say.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

All rhythm games and fighting games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

League of Legends

Damn that shit is hard

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Binding of Isaac! I must have watched at least 2000h of Northernlion playing it and have complete knowledge of everything about that game. But I do suck at it and have played maybe like 10h in total just cause I don't have the hand-eye coordination for it haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Does it count I loved Quake 3 back in the day? Wasn't good at all at it but still I think it's one of the greatest games ever made and I loved playing it, especially Rocket Arena.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Escape from tarkov. I am intrigued by the concept of the game, but each time I played I was outmatched in gear and skill.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The fucking lion king. Aladdin was hard af too. But roger rabbit? I couldn’t beat that bouncing around mother fucker and I don’t know if I ever did. And fuck kid Icarus. Another one I never beat. But the answer to the question is Turok for 64

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't qualify as a "younger user of Lemmy" but I love games like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat. I suck at all of them, except for Killer Instinct but I'm only kinda good with Combo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wasn't expecting to call myself young but I guess I never did experience any games that were just brutal though I did get into gaming a bit later in life. The earliest game I played was Warcraft 3 and the main campaign was easy enough, some custom maps were harder but nothing really hard so 20 years ago games weren't really harder. The hardest thing in any game I have experienced in about 20 years of gaming was Midir with a magic build in dark souls 3 which I never did beat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How do you define young?

I'm definitely too old but I loved Tarkov before cheaters ruined it.

I know some early-20's folks who grew up on DayZ.

Both games very hard to not suck at.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For me it was Rainbow Six Siege.

Absolutely fell in love with the gun play (leaning in that game is my favorite mechanic in any game), destructible environments, operator gadget interactions, and repelling.

However, I was trash at the game because of slow reflexes due to bad eyesight, and poor aim. Relied on the gadgets while my team got the kills.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tried for months but couldn't beat Rayman 2. Fuck you, razor beard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Karate Champ. I probably spent hundreds of dollars on that game and never got past the third match, and don't have the slightest clue what would make a round kick score a full point or a half point... You could come up with strats that usually worked, but nothing ever worked reliably... Mortal Kombat you could come up with strats that would 100% get you double flawless, but it's grandpappy would toss all manner of randomness at your ass and fuck you up pretty reliably :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think there's any game I like that I'm good at

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fortnite lol, but now I’d never wanna touch it again.

I def sucked at Quake Champions at first but now I think it’s the best shooter around

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I could never beat PokΓ©mon Blue because I chose the grass starter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I beat that game at 10 years old with only my starter. Like I knew in concept you should train other Pokemon but I just had a level 86 Blastoise by the end of the game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the grass starter is the best one?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It has a smaller strength-to-weakness ratio than fire and water which are both equal.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love "Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos". I even run its official fansite.

To this day, I have never finished the game because it's hard. I mostly play it like a sandbox space pirate simulator. :D

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