this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"In agreeing to the settlement, the county and sheriff’s department admitted no wrongdoing in connection with the incident."

Awesome, so the taxpayers pay off the settlement and the sheriff's department faces no repercussions.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

It's almost like there's a huge problem that isn't being addressed

(I agree with you)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Awesome, so the taxpayers pay off the settlement and the sheriff’s department faces no repercussions.

Always has been...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hey, the two deputies had to redo training though. Definitely not a culture problem in the LASD though. I mean they've only been investigated like multiple times by the FBI in the last decade including in the last few months and have a horrible reputation by the public at large.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They only have a horrible reputation because people like you won't stop talking about those times that they assaulted a human being while shitting on the constitution and violating human rights and then are only punished with some light training.

If you really think about it, it's your own fault that people won't forget that the LAPD has a deep-rooted culture problem that has been investigated multiple times by the FBI in the last decade and have a horrible reputation by the public at large.

I think it's time we try to be part of the solution and help out the LAPD by telling people to pay less attention to them.

Hey! Stop looking over here at the LAPD!!!

Don't investigate the multiple human rights violations committed by the LAPD that continue to this day!

Many reports have found that there are violent, malicious gangs in the LAPD, and you really shouldn't even think about that!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Don't forget that the LASD Union says that searching Deputies for gang tattoos violates their civil rights.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

If covering protests for police brutality leads to police brutality, you live in a brutal police state.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

The irony here is just too juicy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.

Anyway, here's 700,000. For the...you know..lack of us doing anything

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In agreeing to the settlement, the county and sheriff’s department admitted no wrongdoing in connection with the incident.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's such bullshit that you can even do that! Especially in cases such as this where it's crystal clear that they DID commit a shitload of wrongdoings that would have landed regular people in jail!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Police departments offer massive settlements because it never comes out of police budgets and if the case is settled then they never have to address the harm they continue to cause.