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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fair, I don't know how I'd make ships climb the radio towers either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For anybody slow as me that took an eterny to understand what the hell this comment had to do with anything....

It's a reference to the Ubisoft mechanic seen on most of it's open world games of going to a tower, in this case a reference to Far Cry so it's a radio tower, and do/activate something and that "scans" and add to the map points of interest in that zone around the tower.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To me, blackflag was fun because it was single player (my fav AC game by far) . If they made another single player pirate game I would play the shit out of it

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was initially super interested. Cut down the AC stuff, build out the ships, and you're good to go.

Then I found out it was live service trash and stopped caring.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I could feel all my interest evaporate.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would do unspeakable things to get a Sid Meier's: Pirates! Live the Life style game, but with Black Flag controls/graphics.

Honestly, I got a Ship-of-the-Line in that game once when I was like 13, and every game from then on I hunted for them trying to capture a whole fleet, but they were pretty rare.

I want that feeling of "I'm hunting for a specific ship and country/cargo" again. Black flag is still my all time favorite AC

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats a million dollar idea right there, too bad the game would be too big for an indie company to produce and triple A studios are too dumb to invest on new ideas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's one of those "it will be profitable, but not in a short enough time for it to boost my career" kind of games. There is plenty of interest, just not enough for big sales right out the Gate, which is what AAA companies want.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd be aboard.

Black Flag is still my favorite AC. I never finished the story, because I enjoyed sailing the seas and singing along to shanties.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I finished it once and then went New Game+ and just sailed and sailed.

Only game I never uninstall, just use it to relax.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should really finish the story, the ending is amazing imo. The story starts weak and the middle is kinda meh but the ending... Soooooo good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, seems like I have to start all over. Yay :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Haha have a good one!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this not single player? I was always under the impression this was a spiritual successor to black flag

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they intended it to be single player but then thought they make more money with a multiplayer game as a service

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ahh, colour me disinterested.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It was until Sea of Thieves got popular for a week

Then they scrapped it and started over to copy that

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Singapore keeps throwing money at it, Ubisoft takes it in and let's Ubi Singapore work on that dumpster fire.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have a source for that? I've only seen Ubi is on the hook for the money used if the game doesn't ship

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nope. The only known "fact" is that Ubisoft was given a grant by Singapore which obligated them to release it at some point. Can't imagine why Ubisoft would keep that thing in development for so long instead of just releasing anything if it wasn't for external money that they don't have to care about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

why?, valve keep the game in development for longer, and in the end if worth, why can't ubisoft do the same?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meanwhile SoT churns out content and updates, maintaining a very active and solid population over the years. Plus full PvE mode coming soon which will be fun for a lot of players wanting to casually enjoy all the Tall Tales content.

I can imagine a lot of SoT players giving it a go, just to go back. I think the ship's sailed on this one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Full PVE mode?? Ah Yeah!! Do we know when? aprox?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They cancelled so many other games but they keep this one alive? Any bets that they're going to try to make it a PvPvE extraction shooter game that will be DOA?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I understand, Ubisoft received a grant from the Singapore government that basically mandates this game be published, as opposed to the recent Hyenas cancelation.

Relevant quote;

The company, in exchange for generous subsidies, is required to hit a certain hiring quota and launch original IPs in the next few years, making it imperative that the title gets shipped by hook or by crook – final look notwithstanding.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, but they should have just released it knowing it was going to die, unless they continue to receieve funding if they keep delaying it? Its just a money pit by this point and the faster they dump it the faster they can stop sinking money into it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean ... If you can delay the game and actually make a hit, why not?

Gamers are so ridiculous "how dare you not release this game that's clearly not ready!" one day "how dare you delay this game multiple times! Just give up or launch it already!"

And you know maybe you're not in the former group ever, but it's just wild to me how people can have such wildly different takes on this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This will not be a hit. This game has been delayed how many times already and its still in a worse state than Star Citizen. This game had a chance to be mediocre like 5 years ago, but by now its got zero chances.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This game has been delayed how many times already and its still in a worse state than Star Citizen.

Literally who cares,, it's not released and that's the point. This is like saying the lightbulb is doomed to fail because they didn't get it working as soon as they'd hoped.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally who cares,, it's not released and that's the point.

You care apparently since you're defending it so hard.

This game has set itself up to fail in a similar way that Metal Gear Survive set itself up to fail. Viewer reactions have been across the board pretty negative to footage released. Most people have said they do not plan to play the game. When a development studio sees a lot of negative feedback for early content, they make a choice of delaying and reworking what they have to hopefully get more positive reception, or releasing anyways to largely expected negative reception. The problem is Skull and Bones has been delayed multiple times, and every time it has had content shown the reception has been mostly negative. That's generally a sign to a studio to drop development completely, because releasing will cost the company more money than dropping the game. This game has a legal requirement to release. So they either release and damage their reputation again, or they delay and rework. But they can only delay and rework so many times, their funding is not infinite.

This is like saying the lightbulb is doomed to fail because they didn't get it working as soon as they'd hoped.

If the company making the lightbulb was going bankrupt, had numerous reports of unethical and illegal activity, had made only mid-at-best lightbulbs before, was cancelling other more promising lightbulb designs, and looked like a bootleg of another company's lightbulb, maybe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Alright, you make a compelling argument. We'll see, but I do have friends that are still optimistic about this game when it eventually launches, they mostly just grovel about it not being done yet.

Maybe the broader circles are more informed and more negative. I'm projecting a bit in that I've loosely followed this game after learning it was even a planned thing a few months ago from the friend that still carries some optimism for it.

I don't think the "mass market" follows prerelease content in the way you're suggesting basically. If it releases as a polished game, and I hadn't had this conversation, I would never have known or cared about early reception of the gameplay/gameplay footage.

had numerous reports of unethical and illegal activity

I am curious about this though?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Regarding Ubisoft's unethical/illegal activity:

Executives arrested for questioning in sexual misconduct probe: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53391689

Ubisoft is a Toxic Workplace: https://www.ign.com/articles/almost-a-year-after-toxic-workplace-allegations-ubisoft-employees-reportedly-say-nothing-has-changed

Ubisoft using generative AI for promotional artwork for Assassin's Creed: https://www.pcgamer.com/ubisofts-using-hideous-ai-generated-assassins-creed-art-on-social-media-and-everyone-hates-it/

(While I think generative AI is an amazing and useful tool, I dont think it should be used in this way by a company that should be able to afford paying an artist. Therefore I along with many consider this unethical, but it is debatable).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Executives arrested for questioning in sexual misconduct probe: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53391689

Interesting... Looks like those folks are still going through the system https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/10/former-ubisoft-executives-reportedly-arrested-over-sexual-harassment-allegations/

Hopefully conditions inside the company have improved, but it's hard to get that kind of "positive" insight even if it does exist.

(While I think generative AI is an amazing and useful tool, I dont think it should be used in this way by a company that should be able to afford paying an artist. Therefore I along with many consider this unethical, but it is debatable).

Very fair.

Thanks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's been established for a couple years now that it's already going to be DOA. Ubisoft games almost are as a default these days, but this one in particular seems extra cursed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well it wasnt originally going to be DOA, but then they showed gameplay.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well, the original version began in 2013…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Just release it and let it join the graveyard of shitty games this year.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

If your looking for a great pirate game with a good story, check out Arcane Odyssey. I don’t really want to mention what platform it’s on, but if you like magic and pirates then you might want to check it out.