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Wanted to ask you about this article, how do you remember the early days of the internet (I was sadly too young at that time). Do you wish it back? And do you think it can ever be like that again? I would be very interested

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (94 children)

I miss written tutorials. I hate how every tutorial is a YouTube now. I don't want to watch 15 minutes and forget to pay attention for the second that has the detail that I am missing or it just doesn't show. Even short tutorials are 3 minutes when it could have been a ten second read. I want to skim a page and go directly to the point. Has writing really become that hard to do?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Drives me crazy when I see this kind of format for things like programming. Nothing like pausing the video and trying to see what their code says.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I was all set to start bitching about the obligatory 10-15 minutes of "older, medicated suburban housewife shows off her whole yarn closet, every needle, which needle she likes (it's just pretty), her fingernails, pushes her state-mandated store, and then finishes off with an internet recipe story about how her gramgram was fleeing the war and had to knit jasmine stitch backwards to survive......before fucking up the stitch and never editing that part out. But it's ok because her hands were in the way the whole time anyway."

But I think you've found the only thing that has me beat.

I will at least use this time to implore any knitting/crochet peeps on the fediverse that if you or someone you love is uploading how-to videos anywhere on the web.....SHOW ME THE DAMN STITCH SO I CAN LEAVE. I HAVE PROJECTS, I DO NOT CARE.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll usually go with the length of the video in cases like this. Anything above 5 minutes is a red flag!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I still remember a video I found a year ago that was just barely over a whole minute. It was a guy doing one single really clear cable stitch in complete silence, and then the video cuts out.

I do not know who they are, but I will vouch for that man before god.

Doing a cursory search to see if I can find it again, the second video suggested to me is 26:44 long.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It probably disappeared into the ether because it was too short or lacked a backdrop of dried flowers and a cup of tea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

YT algorithm favors videos that are at least 10 minutes (they fit more ads in) so those get recommended more. As a result, runtimes get padded with fluff so you get recommended to more viewers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That’s disgusting.

I feel like relying on the algorithms completely misses the human elements.

If I need an answer to something, I want my top results to be short and sweet. If I want a documentary or dj set, I don’t want a 3-10 minute version.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@4am @swan_pr
For me, it depends on the topic of the video.
E.g. there are "full courses" about "learning HTML/CSS" or "Svelte" or anything frontend development related, that work for me.

And I don't watch any youtube video on youtube anymore, but only use an invidious server, like yewtu.be - works like a charme (most of the time).

No ads, no tracking, no algorithm \o/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Of course, it all depends on the context. A tutorial for a specific knitting stitch can be done in under 5 minutes, other stuff not so much! There was also an interesting thread somewhere yesterday asking why don't people use their subscription feed on YT and the answers were a good representation of the user base here, ie: most do use it and avoid the algo at all costs! So I think we're all on the same page here, we search and use YT in a way that is most efficient but not the most common :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@4am @swan_pr
Ended up transcribing a (good) sourdough bread recipe from a 19 minute YT that included a segment of the baker and his girlfriend biking to the beach to swim. I need baking tips - not a leopard bikini FFS!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You asked for doughy buns, you got doughy buns

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Nepenthe @Provider @bstix @allenstenhaus If you want a written tutorial for weird sewing things, I got you covered. I think I have two. One is for a tiny bag, the other is for fabric artist trading cards :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok, explain. Link me. I've been turning this over in my head. I cannot fathom what "fabric artist trading card" could possibly be

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Nepenthe @Provider @bstix @Anders429 Haha, I'm tempted to turn that whole thread into a piece of music with "I HAVE PROJECTS I DO NOT CARE" as the chorus. (I'm hearing it as some sort of electronic hardcore punk.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you can pull it off, you have my blessing. Better post it when you're done, though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Nepenthe @Provider @bstix @Anders429 I need a tutorial to show me how you added bolded text to your post!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I assume it all works the same on mastodon, if it's showing up ok, so:

β€’ Bold is 2 asterisks on either side
like ** this **

β€’ Italics is either one asterisk on each side like * this * or underscores _ like this _ (does this show up italicized for you?)

β€’ Strikethrough is ~~ two tildes ~~ and looks ~~like this~~

Obviously just remove the spaces in between the symbols and letters, because I can't figure out yet how to stop markdown from working on here any other way, in order to depict it precisely

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Anders429 @bstix for me its even not accessible then, because I can't see the Code in the Video on Screen, ocr is also not reliable there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reading documentation is still king here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Anders429 @bstix and forget about copy and pasting code

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Anders429 @bstix lol actually i watch videos for programming sometimes - what is really bad is getting a good look at that one knitting stitch that has a six letter abbreviation and only the worst text explanations WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH TAKING A PICTURE OF THIS

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