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Tim Sweeney emailed Gabe Newell calling Valve 'you assholes' over Steam policies, to which Valve's COO replied internally 'you mad bro?' (www.pcgamer.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 191 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (38 children)

If Epic could actually provide a better service, they would be seeing customers and developers actually want to use their platform.

Instead they try to lock games behind exclusivity deals and bribe customers with free games and they still fail.

So what do they do instead of fixing their own problems? They go after everyone else who’s actually successful.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (20 children)

If Epic could actually provide a better service, they would be seeing customers and developers actually want to use their platform.

Doubt

Gog is objectively giving you more value for your money but even cdpr had to release the Gwent standalone on steam eventually because people didn't buy it enough - once it was on steam it sold more than in a year on gog in weeks

People don't look at the alternatives at all - unless it's a AAA game with an exclusive deal

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (16 children)

Gog is objectively giving you more value for your money

What value do they give you exactly?

The games are mostly priced the same, they don't have integrated modding support, no input remapping, no remote play, no in-home streaming, no steamcmd for server operators, no VR client, no Linux client and no Steam Deck support.

The only thing they do give you is no DRM, but nothing stops a developer from adding a DRM-free game on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Steam is DRM. Note the warnings all mention third-party drm. Eventually your login to steam expires and you can't play your games, and steam can revoke games and your access to them at any point for any reason.

Steam is good, but let's not imply it's providing a DRM free experience.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Steam is only DRM if Steamworks is required for the game to launch, e.g. I can copy my Baldur's Gate 3 files to a different PC and launch them without Steam.

It's up to the developer how they behave if Steam is not present.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I didn't know that. It's good to know. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think what they mean is that when you buy the game on Steam, you can't just download the game files through their website. You need to install their client. Which can be seen as a form of DRM.