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Sealioning (lemmy.world)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (32 children)

The difference is intention. The intention of the sea lion is not to convince you that your claim is wrong or immoral; it's to shut you up, by draining your desire to make the claim, since every time that you do it, a sea lion pops up to annoy the shit out of you.

That's a problem because nobody knows the others' intentions - at most we lie that we know. We can at most guess it - but to guess it accurately, without assuming/making shit up, you need to expend even more "mental energy" engaging the user, or looking for further info (e.g. checking their profile).

On a forum such as Lemmy, where people are encouraged to have unsolicited debate in the comments, are we by nature immune from the worst aspects of sealioning?

No. I've seen sea lions in oldschool forums and in Reddit, even if in both you're encouraged to debate in the comments; so Lemmy is not immune by nature against that.

They're just "dressed" in a different way; in Reddit for example your typical sea lion says "I don't understand, [insert question making a straw man of your proposition]? I'm so confused..." instead of asking you to back up your claim.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The difference is intention. The intention of the sea lion is not to convince you that your claim is wrong or immoral; it's to shut you up, by draining your desire to make the claim, since every time that you do it, a sea lion pops up to annoy the shit out of you.

Hexbear in a nutshell.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don't know, really. But I feel that Hexbear is mostly misinterpreted - I don't think that they're trying to sealion, it's more like an out-of-place "debate me~" childish cringe. I might be wrong though, as I mentioned in the second paragraph nobody knows the others' intentions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Hexbear has the same problem as Reddit: it's home to a handful of active, loud, incredibly toxic communities that like to go into other people's online spaces and be assholes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Also: if you go there and do what they do elsewhere, you get banned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

If these spaces have a rule like “no talking if you’re a man” that’s understandable, but what other kinds of “other people’s” spaces are you referring to?

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