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Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism
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Bernie is and has always been a skilled political but at least he is not hypocritical and duplicitous like so many others.
https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1721316148350701936
I already knew all of that, but contrasting him with Bernie's Zionism is making me respect Corbyn more.
But he's still a succdem, so there's probably something shitty about him that will eventually sour my opinion of him, and my general hope for a better future.
I don't think the comparison with Corbyn is fair. Labour looks like it will win the next election by a landslide, and whatever Corbyn says will have little impact on that. Also, criticising Israeli aggression isn't as career-ending in the UK as it is in the US. So I think Corbyn has a lot more freedom to follow his conscience, whereas Bernie has to tread very carefully.
Corbyn has been loudly anti-Zionism for his entire career AFAIK. Also it literally did end his career (well, his leadership), the "antisemitism" bullshit is what other Labour members used to tank him in 2017 and he just didn't recover from there.
And there's a difference between "treading carefully" and basically throwing full support behind Israel (but asking them to be a little nicer) like Bernie is doing.
The antisemitism bullshit was just a convenient excuse. They would have kicked him out one way or the other.
Until he announces a new party.
Honestly he probably wouldn't for exactly that reason. While he is better than Bernie, I'm guessing he shares in the "we have to beat [the Tories/Trump]" sentiment.
Uhh no Corbyn absolutely doesn't share that sentiment lmao.
I believe the rumours. We heard about certain discussions before the news even started mentioning it. There were definitely enquiries and conversations going on behind closed doors.
If we split the labour vote and win constituencies forcing Labour to make a coalition to form a government we can actually force them left. There's no reason not to do it, same strategy that UKIP used against the conservative party to force them further right.
Is Labour really that far ahead that a spoiler couldn't hand it to the Tories?
Damn, I didn't know there's actual rumors. I thought it was more a hypothetical. Hype. Do it Jezza, please.
Nooooo not a spoiler????
I don't buy the argument that the spoiler effect is the fault of the new party or that it means people shouldn't try to start a new party, but the spoiler effect is real. It's the reason FPTP is so shit. And because it's real, many succdems do think a new party would be bad (again, I don't think that). I expected Corbyn to be one of those succdems, but I guess I might be wrong, which is good.