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Your first sentence - I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean there. What has Israel blocked and how? What was the situation before 1948? Please clarify.
As for your suggested solution, can you elaborate on what needs to happen to bring about this utopia?
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] The genociding needs to stop. That's perhaps the easiest to accomplish right now. A ceasefire. Not a "pause". A ceasefire. And Israel needs to loose its "Europeanness". Because that's what zionism ultimately is. The project to make Jews into Europeans. Unfortunately the core European values is genocide.
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Needs to, has to, must... Those are slogans. Let's get real.
The war in Gaza will probably end in a ceasefire that will not last. Where do we go from there? How do we break the cycle of bilateral violence?
If that ever happens, who should lead the Palestinians and what should they do to promote an independent and self-reliant Palestine?
@ymishory @anantagd @appassionato @bookstodon @palestine There is no single answer. Probably the only viable solution is a single, multi-ethnic secular state. While I would prefer all the Zionists to be expelled, this is unlikely to happen, and we will just have to wait until all the European “Israelis” leave & return to Europe/US etc. I expect many will, just as the majority of racist South Africans left after disposing of that colonial state.
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I think a key difference in Israel vs South Africa is that Israel literally thinks that land was given to them by God.
It's something that they can't just pack up and go to a different country for, which means the Jews have to learn to live with their Palestinian neighbors and vice versa.
But if the government is secular and doesn't favor one religion over another, I think most of the people would fall in line with that.
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Most Israelis are secular. Ironic that a people who don’t believe in g-d believe he gave them someone else’s land. Down here in reality, we know it was the British who exceeded their mandate and “gave” Palestine to European Zionists, not g-d.
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From a historical perspective, before Herzl, Jewish people in the Levant had neighbors, who were the “Palestinians” of the 19th century.
The “modern” pragmatic solution would be to return for 1967 borders.
That is why they killed #YitzhakRabin over Oslo Accords.