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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

I can't remember specifically, but weren't there several caliphates (I can't even remember if that's the right word, I believe it started with a c though, basically Islamic ruler) throughout history who had chosen specifically Jewish/Semitic consulates (that might be the word I was thinking of previously but now I'm unsure of the name of the position they were awarded...) to extend an olive branch to trusted allies during times of antisemitism waaaay back. If anyone can find anything to confirm what lost memories I have in my rotting brain about this, much appreciated. Like it was around the era of King Solomon / Constantinople / Istanbul etc. Maybe even closer to the crusades.

Point being, this post is b.s. and there's no accountability being taken for the fact that the issue lies within Zionism in and of itself not of the Jewish people themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Being fundamentally a Protestant Christian ideology, Zionism sees one of its main objectives as getting people to completely forget that anti-Jewishness is a particular feature of the Christian religion and persecution of Jews historically as an overwhelmingly Christian project and that the non-Christian world had never been anti-Jewish in any magnitude approaching the Christian worlds anti-Jewishness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Did read a Wikipedia article (yeah I know...) trying to find the particular scenario to refresh my memory on it. It did say that Islam has had historic strain with Judaism but was mostly formed from Jewish peoples refusing to accept Mohammeds position of prophet and other conflicts, but otherwise shared that contempt with Christians as well and also were instances of camaraderie. So pretty much the ups and downs between Islam Christianity and Judaism are circumstantial and none are a monolith ...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There were definitely issues between Jewish communities and Muslim communities and governments over the centuries. But virtually nothing on the scale of European Christian persecution of Jews. The Jews were expelled from England in the 13th century, from Spain in the 15th century after the Christians retook it from the Muslims, Christian crusaders had a tendency to massacre any Jews they found along their path to wherever they were going. The tsars and then European anti-Semitic parties, the Nazis only being representative of them. The Jews of the 20th century didn’t really experience systemic problems in Arab countries until western powers did their thing with the help of Zionist terrorist to convince them to leave some of their oldest communities with the Babylonian community being maybe the most stark example. Literal Zionist false flag terrorist attacks in the oldest Jewish community in the world followed by a mass effort to move all of the now-spooked Jews away from a place where they had been mostly safe for 2,500 years to the most dangerous place for Jews in the world (the Zionist state).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah wasn't saying that they were worse than other groups to the Semitic peoples. Was just starting that even within Wikipedias Libby, wishy washy, both sidesing nature, you can find that Islams contempt was never a spearhead against the Jewish people simply because they were Jewish. It was usually an inciting incident and rather localized. I guess save for wanting them to convert and their refusal to do so, but that is kinda par for the course with all religion and borne out of lack of perspective. Literally all religions refused to convert to another somewhere down the line because of damnation.

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