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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (17 children)

Can anyone explain to me what the consequence for fare jumping is if they don't do this enforcement? Can an economist explain what the expected value lost from additional jumping is without enforcement?

When I lived in NYC, I began getting monthly passes through work. I did this for 3 years, paying $100/mo or $1,200 a year. I was getting paid pennies to make a big company bigger, so I stopped paying and started jumping. I jumped for around 2 years on my commute and for any other transit. I had a pay per ride card if I was on a date or if I needed the bus transfer. I figured out which cars to hide in to avoid paying for LIRR or the Metro North tickets (hint: at rush hour, no one can walk through the cars).

I was caught one time, I jumped the turnstiles into the 6 train at 68th/Hunter College. Right in front of 3 cops looking for jumpers (of course they were trying to ticket poor college kids). Got a ticket for $85. Still less than my monthly card would have cost. I was gonna argue it with some lame ass excuse but ended up paying it just so I wouldn't have to take a day off work. I still saved over $2300 by jumping.

So, not to say that this program is effective, but how many people were in a similar circumstance as me but decided not to jump because of deterrence policing?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can anyone explain to me what the consequence is for fare jumping if they don’t do this?

Number one reason is that it pisses people off as it is unfair

Humans, like monkeys, are allergic to unfairness and more people will just jump because they also want free shit

These policing efforts are just there to keep the number of free riders to the expected parameter and placate the paying users

Capturing back lost fares is inconsequential

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Public transit should be free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I agree with the sentiment, but until it is free, it is unfair to not police fair jumpers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

As a fare jumper, I completely agree.

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