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[–] [email protected] 89 points 9 months ago (14 children)

when your book is so vague you can craft any meaning into it, arguments like this run out of steam quickly.

they are not bound by the book, but their fluid interpretation thereof. divinity my asshole

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (10 children)

The Bible isn't vague on this one https://www.openbible.info/topics/usury

Very clear:

“If you lend money to any of my people with you who is poor, you shall not be like a moneylender to him, and you shall not exact interest from him.

Whoever multiplies his wealth by interest and profit gathers it for him who is generous to the poor.

Lends at interest, and takes profit; shall he then live? He shall not live. He has done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon himself.

“You shall not charge interest on loans to your brother, interest on money, interest on food, interest on anything that is lent for interest.

In you they take bribes to shed blood; you take interest and profit and make gain of your neighbors by extortion; but me you have forgotten, declares the Lord God.

Take no interest from him or profit, but fear your God, that your brother may live beside you.

You shall not lend him your money at interest, nor give him your food for profit.

I took counsel with myself, and I brought charges against the nobles and the officials. I said to them, “You are exacting interest, each from his brother.” And I held a great assembly against them

But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.

“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.

This one gives mixed signals:

You may charge a foreigner interest, but you may not charge your brother interest, that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land that you are entering to take possession of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The language for the last one is interesting, but I can see some merit to it. If I'm loaning to someone across the border, the distance for travel is really what the interest is charging on. It's a way to support global work while promoting local collaboration first.

Then it gets all manifest destiny and I get kind of at a loss.

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