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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (89 children)

Until there's a liberal space for men, it's going to cause them to flock to lying conservatives. There, they will be indoctrinated by weird, stupid conservative bullshit that has nothing to do with any of this.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago (18 children)

There isn’t? Millions of liberal men can man just fine every day just out in public.

What are you missing?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (16 children)

So you don’t think there are any issues with how men are treated on the left?

As progressive as the left can be, men have been left behind and are still often expected to ‘just be a man’, while dealing with double standards and sometimes being treated like they’re inherently bad.

Edit: Copying what vzq has said to me for visibility, as this is the exact problem. Do I sound like the angry toddler in this discussion?

“I want to be treated fairly and based on how I act, and yet I don’t get that.” You are being treated based on how act. You act like a spoiled toddler that thinks he’s owed some consideration by strangers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

No, I honestly do not. I do my level best to treat everyone as a person and when I mess up I apologize and try and do better. That works pretty well.

If you are treated like you are inherently bad, you may be not as good as you think you are.

Edit: nice edit man. Totally not what an angry toddler would do.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you are treated like you are inherently bad, you may be not as good as you think you are.

Ah, blame the victim. Men get treated a certain way so it must be their fault...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Again, just disregarding how men feel, where does that get us?

I absolutely do not act in the way that men are accused of, but blanket statements about “MeN BaD” are so frequent and widely accepted, and it’s just ignored or even praised.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Can you give a more precise example? I hope you do not mean individuals who write stuff online. In what way do left oriented organisations treat all men like they are bad?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for proving their point lol

You just flipped blame on the individual without even attempting to understand anything about them.

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