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Image description: Image shows batches 1, 2 and 3 sold out for the Ryzen 7 7840HS which costs $1,399.

For now both DIY and prebuild edition (all configurations) are in batch 4 which ships in late Q4 2023.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (21 children)

I do badly want to like these.. but I don't see the point.

Repairability wise mid range ThinkPad is nearly as good. Only major difference is I think Framework claims they will release schematics... and as someone who actually does component level repairs I've seen promises like this work I've or twice, but then they stop maintaining their data or pays get hard to get rendering the gesture null.

Upgrade wise... I switch machines every 4 to 6 years... at which point the chassis has a bit of wear and tear.

Spec wise I buy what I need and add a little headroom with the ThinkPad.

Spare parts are good for ThinkPad and Lenovo actually has component replacement guides that no one seems to mention or know about.

And when I do upgrade I appreciate having a complete spare machine.

I think it's also not unreasonable to assume my style of buying and upgrading is not uncommon.

This leaves the Framework very few hardware advantages and nil price advantages.

I still think they're a great idea, but I don't see any practical benefit over a sensible alternative.

Genuine question... Have I missed anything?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not asking much... Just if they just would add a trackpoint, a decent mechanical keyboard (don't mind if this adds 0.5cm to the thickness) and offer a black chassis... I feel they would really be the new home of former IBM ThinkPad users which are more and more disappointed about Lenovos decisions to try to compete with Macs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yea, differenc chassis is something they could improve.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

While I love my mech getting one included means a full redesign for the benefit of just a small subgroup.

That said, I did notice their keyboards run QMK firmware, was very impressed by that.

Black is must, I have to admit that shiny look is a put off for me.

Track point needs to happen too.

And my biggest compliant for my ThinkPad is the ctrl and FN keys being in shitty places.

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