Hobby Drama

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A community for the drama, big and small, in hobby groups.

RULES

BE KIND. No bigotry, flaming, trolling, etc. Do not brigade (remember we are outside observers)!
NO DOXXING. Do not post addresses, real names, etc of individuals. Exceptions are made for public figures (eg celebrities) and companies, but keep it relevant.
14 DAY RULE. When making a post drama should be concluded for at least 14 days to make sure it's fully concluded and give a complete scope to posts. The exception to this is the weekly Hobby Round Up megathread which this rule does not apply to.
INCLUDE CONSEQUENCES. When posting include what the drama means for the community. "The state of the game is worse off and players are leaving" is better than "and everyone was mad the end".
KEEP OUT BIAS. If you are one of the main participants in the drama don't post, this isn't a community for validation seeking. If you're a peripheral (eg you're in the hobby and have an opinion, but aren't the one the drama is about, leading a petition drive, etc) posting is fine. Strive to be objective in your write-up.
NSFW. If a hobby or drama is NSFW mark the post as such.
REPOSTS. Reposts should be clearly marked with [REPOST] in the title and a link to the original post at the top or bottom of the post. Posts that don't follow this rule will be warned and then removed if the requested changes aren't made.
TITLE GUIDELINES. Titles should include the following tags as appropriate:

[REPOST] for reposts
[HISTORY] for drama that does not include hobbyists (eg industry drama such as the financial fallout of a game company's decisions)
[GENERAL HOBBY] music, apparel, video games, TV shows, knitting, social media group, etc
[SPECIFIC HOBBY] is an optional tag if you'd like to be more specific (eg Taylor Swift, Game of Thrones, Gucci, World of Warcraft, etc)

An example title would be: [Video Games][Old School Runescape] The hat scandal OR [Repost][History][Music] Fyre Festival controversies

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[Mod Post] Hobby Drama Rules Discussion (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hey there! This is obviously a community in the vein of the reddit Hobby Drama subreddit, but I wanted to check in to see where we want to draw a few rules as a community. So to that end:

REPOSTING FROM REDDIT

I did see a few people were interested in having a bot auto repost from the reddit sub and most of our posts are reposts. My question here is should we have an anything from another site (reddit or otherwise) is fair game to repost with proper credit (let's try to keep those links back to original write-ups, I feel this is only fair to the authors) rule or should permission be obtained from the author first for reposts (basically like r/bestofredditorupdates on reddit)?

DRAMA RESOLUTION WAITING PERIOD

The reddit sub has a 14 day waiting period for drama to conclude before a post can go up. As we're obviously a smaller community I don't see the need to be as stringent, but waiving the waiting period could lead to a lot of biased hot take posts. Would the community like to see the waiting period waived, lowered, remain?

ETA: this post is open for discussion until 7/24 so please do add your opinion even if you feel "late" to the discussion! It's my goal to have the community rules updated by Friday 7/28 to fit our community a little better and knowing how our community feels as migration from reddit continues to take place will be a big assist.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The only reason I don't care all that much is because it's all online in public, it's made to be shared. Do you get upset when someone steals your meme and doesn't credit you? The internet is just made for this kind of spread. It's why comic creators use tags. Where do you draw the line for what online text is shareable or not shareable?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like memes are made and meant to be shared hence the name. I feel a hobby drama post is more like a blog post to a community they are a member of. They are sharing it with members of that community and not intentionally sharing it with other communities. I also think asking for permission seems like a good middle ground between reposting all hobby drama posts from Reddit and banning all reposts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My only issue with this is some of the people might not be there. They might have forgotten their accounts, left reddit or might be literally dead. I have definitely made some posts with some alts that I no longer remember the password to.

If we are going to require permission (which I am not for, for the record. I have a different philosophical view) then I would prefer it be an opt out type of thing. Meaning message the account, say that you are planning on reposting their post to Lemmy in the next week unless they respond and say they would rather not. That's a win, win, win. Not only will you get a better repost rate (because let's face it even if people don't care, some people won't bother answering their messages), you still give them the opportunity to say no and on top of that you get to introduce them to Lemmy!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know if we would be reposting really old posts or not so I’m not sure if that would be an issue. I think the opt out system is a good idea. At least it gives the creator a chance to decline the repost. Especially if we give them a decently long enough timeline to respond.

I wonder how this would all be enforced. Would you need to screenshot your PM to the OP?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I believe r/bestofredditorupdates usually just asks in the comments of the post so it's public to everyone. Personally I don't mind running on an honor system (since a fair share of the more popular HD posts are archived or authored by abandoned accounts) and if a write-up is reposted against the wishes of an author having a policy they can reach out to have the post here taken down.

For an example of a contacting the author issue though, the WoW write-up author was suspended by reddit and faik that was never revoked and the author never made another account. So there's no way (that I'm aware of) to contact them and that's a decently popular write-up that got voted an award by the subreddit community.

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