this post was submitted on 21 Dec 2023
195 points (90.5% liked)

Technology

59145 readers
2212 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.

Our Rules

  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
195
Nuclear energy is more expensive than renewables, CSIRO report finds (www.abc.net.au)
submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
49 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

Nuclear energy is more expensive than renewables, CSIRO report finds::Renewable energy provides the cheapest source of new energy for Australia, a new draft report from the CSIRO and energy market operator has found.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

There are literally countries that went all in on nuclear power (france and switzerland come to mind), that now regret that play and are trying to transition away from them. Not for safety reasons, just because they are extremely expensive to operate and they become a money pit when renewables eat away at the base load that they were built to supply. You have nuclear plants paying people to take their power during the afternoons because they cant shut down quickly when the sun comes out.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

who told you they are regretting ?

Look at energy maps. France has one of the greenest energy mixes around and sells energy to Germany(and others) which cannot produce sufficient power for itself in Winter.

Also Germany at many instances end up playing the neighbours to buy their electricity Or selling it lower then 0.01€/kWh on days of overproduction.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

sells energy to Germany(and others)

Usually Germany is exporting more to France than it's importing, 2023 is an exception this year it's almost even, with a slight lead for France. Have some charts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I am aware of that but that's due to Compulsive exporting by shunting the prices to near 0€ as there is overproduction on sunny days.

if you look at the net value of exported vs imported electricity. Germany is strongly in deficit.

Also the overproducion isn't great cause he renewabke the LCOE is calculated at install time but the actual cost it's larger as you end up giving away the electricity (Very difficult to assess on the free market)

In addition to that Germany's energy mix has 5-8x carbon intensity as that of France.

The German solution isn't economical and by far not ecological. hey but they do better than Poland so that's something.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)