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MLAIs need to be trained before they can be used, and the data an MLAI might need depends on the type of AI. The diffusion AIs often rely on artwork which mostly is gathered from artists trying to make a living off of their hobby - the professional "hobby" artists kinda being the forerunners of what many envisioned AI would hopefully lead to in the future.
Now, if we carelessly use these artist's artwork, copyright or not, we might remove or inhibit their ability to live off what they love, which would be a giant blow against those of us fighting for AI as a relief of forced work and enabler of personal freedom.
My concern is therefore, in a world where many use AI without consideration for enshittfication of others lives, do the models often used on dbzer0's communities just scrape the internet of training material, or do those who make and sanitize the datasets ask the artists for permission/use openly available (using the equivalent of the unlicense) material instead?
dbzero0 is a instance which represents copyleft, but my impression is that it also represents the want for more personal control and being able to do whatever one wants. Though, I'm unsure if the general community consensus is to do whatever one wants even at the expense of other common people (everyone for themselves, kinda like the big corps do), or if the community consensus is to do whatever one wants while making sure that others also have the ability to do so (FOSS, commissioning the little man instead of buying from big corps, donating money or labor to small communities instead of being the product of some large social media platform).
I really do like being part of dbzer0, but this question on the instance's stance has held me back from recommending the instance in my circle of friends.
Dbzer0 is a pirate instance. I don't think you will find much sympathy for copyrighted artwork here.
I do agree, though, you can be a pirate and still see the necessity in copyright no matter how warped it currently is, the kind who challenge copyright to change it and not just ignore it, those who try and keep the market healthy in their own unique way.
Though, while having seen some, I'm still unsure how many and how vocal they are on this instance.
EDIT: I guess I did butcher this comment really bad, that's what I get for trying and compress 4 paragraphs down to 2. I'm pretty much trying to say, that while copyright, as it is handled right now, is most definitely counter productive to society, the idea behind it does have some merit. It's not a black/white situation. Furthermore, there exist pirates who also try and care about the market, not necessarily focused on copyright, but simply caring about those whose content they pirate.
Copyright is evil
Not really, no.